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xaser04 · 14th Apr 2011, 09:41

Â£250 for a GTX560Ti..... er no.

Given the competition and the fact that comparable performing cards (such as the HD6950 & normal GTX560 TI's) can be head for MUCH less this card is a complete waste of time.

How can a performance conclusion be based on only 4 games? Especially given the games chosen and the relatively short test time (60 seconds in BFBC2 does not give a true representation of gaming performance).

Fizzban · 14th Apr 2011, 10:09

Gigabyte already released a 560 with a 1000Mhz clock speed. How come this hasn't been reviewed? It's been out ages.

SpAceman · 14th Apr 2011, 10:27

I love how it beats the 480 in most fps tests

Xir · 14th Apr 2011, 11:07

I'd also argue the other way round, buy a 570 and OC that (or buy an OC'd 570) for just 40pounds more. (or buy a "simpler" 560 and OC that for a bigger save.
Still a fantastic result for a 560, and an impresive cooler performance, but the Price-point could prove to make this card a difficult sell.

jon · 14th Apr 2011, 13:00

^ what Xir said. Though the argument can be made that significant OC's like the ones KFA2 has done might be very difficult without their custom power design. Also note that this beast uses less power (it's more efficient?) and the heat issue is almost non-existent. Both of those are big benefits as well. So ... it's a matter of value.

Still think I'd go with a standard 560 ...

Redsnake77 · 14th Apr 2011, 13:38

Don't like KFA2 a a company, they only offer a 1 year warranty, opposed to the 2 years that seems to have become a standard (thought I read somewhere that 2 years was a minimum requirement by law on consumer electronics?). Wouldn't touch KFA2's cards with someone else's bargepole.

Christopher N. Lew · 14th Apr 2011, 13:45

"few GTX 560 Ti 1GB coolers do this so this isn’t a particular criticism of KFA²’s cooler"

Are there any GTX 560 Ti cards that exhaust all the hot air out at the rear?

veato · 14th Apr 2011, 13:57

I can get a GTX570 for Â£15 more. So what's the point of this?

thehippoz · 14th Apr 2011, 14:31

yeah I'm not sure it's a good deal with the 570 out there.. you can oc the 570 and it should give you around stock 580

IvanIvanovich · 14th Apr 2011, 14:32

i so loooooooooove the white pcb. just imagining how pretty it would be with a black nickel plated water block with white pom. though i won't be getting one as i already just picked up an evga gtx560. maybe down the road i might consider sli'ing and pick one of these up.

brown626 · 15th Apr 2011, 10:29

HI all ... just to set some record straight.. All KFA2 products come with 2 year warranty as standard.

jon · 15th Apr 2011, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher N. Lew

"few GTX 560 Ti 1GB coolers do this so this isn’t a particular criticism of KFA²’s cooler"

Are there any GTX 560 Ti cards that exhaust all the hot air out at the rear?

It appears that the EVGA Superclocked 560 Ti does:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-610-_-Product

-Jon

Scott84 · 14th Aug 2011, 16:51

Hi guys, was just wondering if I could get some advice please.

Basically I was thinking about getting either a 560 ti, or possibly a 570, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if I should be able to run it ok.

My PSU is the Antec Truepower New 650W as seen here:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/psu...iew-round-up/7

And being new to this upgrading lark, I was wondering if I could add one of these cards, as the 4 rails on the PSU are 22A, 22A, 25A and 25A, and can have things plugged directly to any of the rails, but this card seems to need a 30A rail and the 570 needs 38A!

So I was wondering if that basically means that my PSU is woefully inadequate to power either of these cards, even though 650W is obviously higher than the 500W/550W required by these cards, but my rails are not up there at 30A/38A?

Bearing in mind that the rest of my PC is VERY modest to all you guys out there, with a quad core phenom 820 and whatever motherboard dell chucked in my PC when they made it about a year ago. My current graphics card is an ATI 5450 so obviously it's having a hard time at the moment.

Also, could anyone recommend a specific make/model of 570 if indeed I can run one?

Thanks a lot

Scott

Deders · 15th Aug 2011, 10:13

PSU will be fine, I run 2 9800GTX+'s (150W each) off of one and rarely use half the power the PSU is capable of outputting.

The figure you see is all inclusive for all your hardware, and is a little high to accommodate PSU's that aren't as good as yours. so by the same logic your PSU can supple 54A at 12V (it says on the side).

Basically up to 6.25A of the actual graphics card power will be drawn via rail 1 as it has to go via the motherboard. the remaining power (no more that 12.5A, in the case of the 560TI a lot less than) will come via the PCIe connector on either rail 3 or 4, which can both output twaice as muc if they need to.

You'll be fine.

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jon Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD, USA Posts: 113	^ what Xir said. Though the argument can be made that significant OC's like the ones KFA2 has done might be very difficult without their custom power design. Also note that this beast uses less power (it's more efficient?) and the heat issue is almost non-existent. Both of those are big benefits as well. So ... it's a matter of value. Still think I'd go with a standard 560 ... __________________ DargonZine: The longest running fantasy magazine on the net. Period.

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Redsnake77 Useless Idiot Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 278	Don't like KFA2 a a company, they only offer a 1 year warranty, opposed to the 2 years that seems to have become a standard (thought I read somewhere that 2 years was a minimum requirement by law on consumer electronics?). Wouldn't touch KFA2's cards with someone else's bargepole.

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Christopher N. Lew Folding in memory of my father Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,325	"few GTX 560 Ti 1GB coolers do this so this isn’t a particular criticism of KFA²’s cooler" Are there any GTX 560 Ti cards that exhaust all the hot air out at the rear?

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thehippoz Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 5,780	yeah I'm not sure it's a good deal with the 570 out there.. you can oc the 570 and it should give you around stock 580

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14th Aug 2011, 16:51	#33
Scott84 What's a Dremel? Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1	Hi guys, was just wondering if I could get some advice please. Basically I was thinking about getting either a 560 ti, or possibly a 570, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if I should be able to run it ok. My PSU is the Antec Truepower New 650W as seen here: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/psu...iew-round-up/7 And being new to this upgrading lark, I was wondering if I could add one of these cards, as the 4 rails on the PSU are 22A, 22A, 25A and 25A, and can have things plugged directly to any of the rails, but this card seems to need a 30A rail and the 570 needs 38A! So I was wondering if that basically means that my PSU is woefully inadequate to power either of these cards, even though 650W is obviously higher than the 500W/550W required by these cards, but my rails are not up there at 30A/38A? Bearing in mind that the rest of my PC is VERY modest to all you guys out there, with a quad core phenom 820 and whatever motherboard dell chucked in my PC when they made it about a year ago. My current graphics card is an ATI 5450 so obviously it's having a hard time at the moment. Also, could anyone recommend a specific make/model of 570 if indeed I can run one? Thanks a lot Scott

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Deders I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Here and there, mostly there Posts: 3,371	PSU will be fine, I run 2 9800GTX+'s (150W each) off of one and rarely use half the power the PSU is capable of outputting. The figure you see is all inclusive for all your hardware, and is a little high to accommodate PSU's that aren't as good as yours. so by the same logic your PSU can supple 54A at 12V (it says on the side). Basically up to 6.25A of the actual graphics card power will be drawn via rail 1 as it has to go via the motherboard. the remaining power (no more that 12.5A, in the case of the 560TI a lot less than) will come via the PCIe connector on either rail 3 or 4, which can both output twaice as muc if they need to. You'll be fine. __________________ i5 750@3800 - MSI P55 GD65 - Asus GTX670 DirectCU II - 4GB OCZ DDR3 @1440 7-7-7-18 - Be Quiet! Straight Power E9 500W - Nanoxia Deep Silence One - X-FI Xtreme Gamer - Samsung 830 128GB - Spinpoint F3 1TB - WD Caviar Blue 640 - LG Flatron W2252TQ - Razer Deathadder - Thermaltake Contac 29.