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Old 26th Apr 2011, 22:31   #1
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PSN Users: READ THIS

Bit-tech Story: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/...-compromised/1

The truth about the extent of the PSN outage comes to light...

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Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state/province, zip or postal code), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity passwords and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained.
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/...ervice-update/

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Old 26th Apr 2011, 22:35   #2
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Haha makes sense given the length of the outage.
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 22:56   #3
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 23:14   #4
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Somehow i expect a nice big class action lawsuit against Sony in near future.
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 23:26   #5
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Just spotted THIS on ARS.
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Holy christ that's an epic fail. Thanks Sony.
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Old 26th Apr 2011, 23:58   #7
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To be fair, Sony does apologize for the inconvenience.
You just feel like saying piss off. Inconvenience? No. They lost all our personal information. I mean it's Sony, one of the top electrical companies in the world.
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Holy christ that's an epic fail. Thanks Sony.
Thanks hackers.

Who's to say it wouldn't have happened just the same with a system like XBL or, God help us, Steam. History has shown many times that security systems aren't perfect (I'm sure MS wishes this were so, no more service packs or updates!), just a few months ago it was some network of websites that had its user account information hacked into.
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LOL at the comments though.

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The more i read about this, the more it confirms my theories that this was done by people who hates Sony and who want their customers to leave them to turn to for example Xbox instead. I’d like to call them Xbox fans jealous of the free services of PSN, but who knows if we’ll ever find out the truth.

In other words, those who feel like they are at cross-roads right now; don’t let these *******s win! Stay with Sony and show them that things like these won’t make us forget all the good that Sony has given us in the past.
Damn you Xbox!!!! ****ing moron.
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LOL at the comments though.

Damn you Xbox!!!! ****ing moron.
Get out the tinfoil hats ladies and gentlemen!

I'm just waiting for someone to go say it was Microsoft or Nintendo who did it.
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Thanks hackers.

Who's to say it wouldn't have happened just the same with a system like XBL or, God help us, Steam. History has shown many times that security systems aren't perfect (I'm sure MS wishes this were so, no more service packs or updates!), just a few months ago it was some network of websites that had its user account information hacked into.
Why wasn't the possibility of this considered when Sony knew full well that Dev firmware was out there? Surely someone should have twigged that this could happen? Hackers will be hackers, if there's a will there's a way and all that, but you've got to design a system to be robust enough to protect personal information.
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Why wasn't the possibility of this considered when Sony knew full well that Dev firmware was out there? Surely someone should have twigged that this could happen? Hackers will be hackers, if there's a will there's a way and all that, but you've got to design a system to be robust enough to protect personal information.
I admittedly am not a software engineer, but I highly doubt it's that simple. If you could just throw money, time, and manpower at a problem until it's fixed then we'd already have a cure for every known disease and advanced space travel for getting humans to Mars simply by the sheer amounts of effort thrown at them. Software security seems to be a very similar field in that respect. Apply more resources and you'll have a higher chance of being secure, but there's no set guarantee such as "put in $10 billion and a team of 200 engineers and you'll be safe".

This outage certainly will not be good for Sony. It's just not good business for them to have been lazy on security, and you don't get a company to that size by using bad business.
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i think its a case that developer consoles were completely trusted
if so, the main fail here is that sony shouldnt have had those "trusted" machines connected to the same network as the main psn
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I still get a laugh out of everyone around the internet believing it was anon or geohot as if there are no other crackers out there. That and the attack is unlike anything that anon do.
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I still get a laugh out of everyone around the internet believing it was anon or geohot as if there are no other crackers out there. That and the attack is unlike anything that anon do.
Duh, did you not read my post earlier. It's obviously Xbox fanboys wanting to convert PS3 owners! There's no other reason!!!
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As i said, this will end up as a class action lawsuit against Sony, where at least US PS3 owners will get a huge compensation and Sony will be happy if there won't be a investigation against them.

And this pretty much zeroes any profit Sony made from PS3, because the payments they will have to pay to users will be enormous.
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I haven't turned on my ps3 in forever. Will I lose MegaMan 9 ? (the only thing I ever bought on PSN)
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I haven't turned on my ps3 in forever. Will I lose MegaMan 9 ? (the only thing I ever bought on PSN)
you wont lose games

but it is unknown if any credit card details you may have used have been taken

and all the psn info you might use for other accounts
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but it is unknown if any credit card details you may have used have been taken

and all the psn info you might use for other accounts
This concerns me the most.

All I got to say is that Sony had better get their **** together...
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No system that connects to the outside world is completely safe no matter how much time and money is spent securing it, anyone who has worked with windows in a technical sense is well aware of this!

It doesn't help that the recent sony lawsuits (regardless of what side of the fence you sit on) have probably made them a target.
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