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Old 12th Sep 2011, 12:07   #1
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Smartphones outsell feature phones for first time

Huge drops in feature phone sales are matched by large gains in smartphone sales, helped by Android.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...eature-phone/1
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Old 12th Sep 2011, 12:24   #2
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Even my mother has a smartphone, and she hates mobile phones... using touch screen was the best thing that could happen to a phone
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Old 12th Sep 2011, 12:49   #3
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I use a "feature Phone" regularly due to high cost of using the smartphone here in Germany.
Also, use of the internet connection is not covered by usual "pre-paid" conditions here.
So people buy a Phone, load up 10€, use the net and get a bill over 1000€.
Legislation is slowly changing though, so we might get some interesting tariffs.

Also, roaming is ridiculously expensive.
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Work provide me with a cheap nasty Nokia that does calls and txt. in monochrome...

What else do I need ?

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honestly my new smartphone (issued by the office) based on android, was better as a GPS device than the old handheld unit we had, and actually helped us better on our long range radio communications on getting the damn things aligned, and I couldn't ever think before that I would find such an awesome use for a smartphone,lol
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Even my mother has a smartphone, and she hates mobile phones... using touch screen was the best thing that could happen to a phone
no, it isn't. the keyboard on phones is much more practical. keyboards are so much faster to use, so much more responsive, and neither the keyboard nor your fingers get in the way of the screen. touch screens are good for navigation but otherwise they're just gimmicky and inefficient.
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no, it isn't. the keyboard on phones is much more practical. keyboards are so much faster to use, so much more responsive, and neither the keyboard nor your fingers get in the way of the screen. touch screens are good for navigation but otherwise they're just gimmicky and inefficient.
In your opinion.

I would say a capacitative touchscreen allows a user to type faster than on a mechanical keyboard simply by virtue of little to no resistance when registering the keypress.
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I use a smartphone on PASYG because thats all I need, I could do with a simple phone , calls and text, plus a decent camera, but I cannot find one foe PASYG
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OOps that should read a simple Nokia NOT a smartphone
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Are there any smartphones out there that have a decent standby-and-call time?
Like a week standbytime@10 mins calls a day and some texts?
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I sit in front of a computer at work all day and have one in almost every room of my house - I have not found any need for a smart phone. Besides that, Canada has some of the highest cost plans in the world (link1) (link 2). I'm not giving those greedy people any more money than I have to.

Occasionally I'd like to be able to look something up while on the road or in a restaurant but I can live with a bit of delay in looking up things - especially since waiting just a little is a lot more cost effective.
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Probably because Stephen Elop (CEO of Nokia - previously the biggest feature, and smart, phone maker) is doing everything he can to stop people buying Nokia phones. Since really Nokia were the only people who still made feature phones and now no-one makes featurephones anymore nobody can buy them.
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Even my mother has a smartphone, and she hates mobile phones... using touch screen was the best thing that could happen to a phone
no, it isn't. the keyboard on phones is much more practical. keyboards are so much faster to use, so much more responsive, and neither the keyboard nor your fingers get in the way of the screen. touch screens are good for navigation but otherwise they're just gimmicky and inefficient.
She hated the buttons, she's very old, and using the touchscreen she can even send me messages, something that she didn't care about when she had old phones.

It's easier to use than old phones...
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Where did all these smartphone-hating luddites suddenly crawled from?

Go back to burning looms or something, this site is for tech enthusiasts.
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Even my mother has a smartphone, and she hates mobile phones... using touch screen was the best thing that could happen to a phone
Nah, no tactile feedback is crap.

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Work provide me with a cheap nasty Nokia that does calls and txt. in monochrome...

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Same, and the answer is of course nothing.

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I would say a capacitative touchscreen allows a user to type faster than on a mechanical keyboard simply by virtue of little to no resistance when registering the keypress.
Which is totally negated by actually having to look every time you try and press a virtual button to see if it worked. Tactile feedback > touch screen buttons every time a coconut. Shouldn't be too long before touch screens with tactile feedback get here though.

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Are there any smartphones out there that have a decent standby-and-call time?
No. I think my 1 yo Nokia still does 10 days though.

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Where did all these smartphone-hating luddites suddenly crawled from?

Go back to burning looms or something, this site is for tech enthusiasts.
Ah huh... I'm guessing you're probably a pron enthusiast, but I bet you're not into interracial goat pron?

You can be enthusiastic about some techs and not others.

FWIW I have had them since things like the PPC2002 HTCs, as we develop for them. For their primary purpose they're all just varying degrees of crap compared to the trusty do nothing Nokia. For everything else I use a little foresight about my day, a netbook, and a life.
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ive got a "feature" phone...if you can call it that. its a pay-as-you-go no-contract motorola with basic text and calls. the only thing i wish it had was T9...as typing out every letter on a 10-key is a bit time consuming.
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Which is totally negated by actually having to look every time you try and press a virtual button to see if it worked.
Which I don't have a problem and isn't an issue for many people that I know.

It sounds like you're justifying your own inability to type fluidly on a touchscreen as a problem with the hardware as a whole.

I don't like mechanical keyboards but I'm not about to dress it up as anything other than personal preference.
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