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Old 18th Jan 2012, 11:13   #1
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Websites go dark in protest at SOPA, PIPA

The Internet is (sort of) on strike!

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Old 18th Jan 2012, 11:17   #2
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"It seems ridiculous that lawmakers could be looking to hand such control..."

If it seems so ridiculous to you Bit-Tech why haven't you taken action?
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 11:25   #3
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It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests.
This is a rather massive case of the pot calling the kettle black - what are SOPA & PIPA if not lobby-based legislation from the RIAA & MPAA to further their own members' corporate interests?

Besides, what, exactly, are the EFF's or Wikipedia's corporate interests? From Google's standpoint, they could run a very real risk of being blacklisted because their automated systems crawl a site containing link to copyrighted information? I'd say that's worth fighting for.

Is it ironic that the US, a country which spent decades fighting this kind of censorship and information control in the Communist countries, is now considering exactly the thing they were rallying against for so long?
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 11:28   #4
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Great, a law that screws over the people so that big business can reign supreme
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 11:42   #5
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hold on why is this site still running today then?
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 11:52   #6
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hold on why is this site still running today then?
My thoughts exactly...
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SOPA is a stupid idea. It basically lets people with vested interests be judge, jury and exicutioner. A truely terrible idea.
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If you disable JavaScript, Wikipedia works as normal.
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 13:23   #9
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"It seems ridiculous that lawmakers could be looking to hand such control..."

If it seems so ridiculous to you Bit-Tech why haven't you taken action?
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hold on why is this site still running today then?
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My thoughts exactly...
Because this site is for geeks like us. If it went down, Ordinary Joe Public wouldn't be any the wiser, and couldn't care less.

The only way the voting public will sit up and take notice is to deprive them of something that they value: to make them realise it is under threat and give them a taste of what it would be like to have to do without. So you black out the sites visited by the larger public: Google, Wikipedia, YouTube, stuff like that.
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 13:43   #10
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@ Nexxo

I bet there are a tonne of readers who don't know about SOPA & Protect IP and a load more who don't understand the wider consequences. Shutting the site would educate these people and the more people that understand what's going on, the better.

Also there are voting public that read and value this site, and a whole lot more that can prod friends the other side of the Atlantic.

Finally I think it would have benefited Bit-Tech's publicly perceived persona, showing they value journalistic responsibility and would have boosted site traffic longer-term.

And who you calling a geek!?
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I've personally been slightly disappointed by they way almost all of the sites I know of who have taken part in the 'blackout' seem to being doing it via javascript, and so all you have to do is disable it to access the site without issue :/
And while some people may say only tech savy people will know that etc, and that's not who the blackout is for, it's all over facebook etc, so the less tech savy people already know a way to get round it.

Tis a good idea though, and hopefully it actually has an affect.
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 13:52   #12
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Or you could use Google's cache for wiki... Buts thats not the point its a symbolic gesture.
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People that don't know about SOPA in the first place probably don't know how to disable javascript

EDIT: Clearly a massive, sweeping and false generalisation but you get the idea...
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Because this site is for geeks like us..
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"It seems ridiculous that lawmakers could be looking to hand such control..."

If it seems so ridiculous to you Bit-Tech why haven't you taken action?
Yeah I thought the same .

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Because this site is for geeks like us. If it went down, Ordinary Joe Public wouldn't be any the wiser, and couldn't care less.

The only way the voting public will sit up and take notice is to deprive them of something that they value: to make them realise it is under threat and give them a taste of what it would be like to have to do without. So you black out the sites visited by the larger public: Google, Wikipedia, YouTube, stuff like that.
Ah yep makes sense .
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I have the up most respect for the PC gaming site http://www.rockpapershotgun.com for doing so today, seemingly the only site I frequent other then Wikipedia that took part, which is a shame.
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This has got everything toi do with censorship and very little (financially profitable) to do with anti piracy.

If it is indeed all about piracy and lost revenue.....Here's my answer:

If corporations with vested interests are pushing for this bill, Let it be passed and protest with your wallet.

DO NOT GO TO MOVIES OR CONCERTS - DO NOT RENT OR BUY MOVIES AND MUSIC - DO NOT SHOP OR VISIT ANYWHERE THAT PROMOTES THE INTERESTS - CHANGE THE TV CHANNEL WHEN AN ADVERT FOR THE INTERESTS COMES ON.


You get my drift, Remember folks it our money that put these greedy self serving ***** where they are., and its lack of our money that will remove them.

It stinks no matter what and we should all be concerned. That's you too bit-tech!!!!!
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I'm against PIPA and SOPA and don't mind not using google or other website, when the internet wasn't so developed as it is now, people would do research and business the way it has been done for years, libraries, telephones, mail (not electronic).

Although BT staff may have PIPA and SOPA protesters, don't forget this is a company and it's up to Dennis Publishing executives to decide wether a BT blackout is in order or not.
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Because this site is for geeks like us. If it went down, Ordinary Joe Public wouldn't be any the wiser, and couldn't care less.

The only way the voting public will sit up and take notice is to deprive them of something that they value: to make them realise it is under threat and give them a taste of what it would be like to have to do without. So you black out the sites visited by the larger public: Google, Wikipedia, YouTube, stuff like that.
agreed, and unfortunately, with the exception of wikipedia, major site deprivation is not happening. google, to its credit, has its homepage doodle blacked out in protest, along with appropriate links, but you can still search. facebook, youtube, twitter, no interruption. too much revenue would be lost. i know twitter, at least, has spoken out against both.
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I've been on-line way too long today. I've yet to run across any site, whatsoever, that was down for anything. I really have no idea what protest you're referring to.
The bulk of this article is quite valid, save the so-called protest that has yet to be witnessed by me.
Since bit tech is still going strong today, I can only come to the conclusion that they do not agree with this "protest", and is all for SOPA/PIPA. Unless, of course, you think bit tech is above such things.
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