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View Poll Results: Windows 8: what is your opinion?
Love it: I'm already using it or planning to do so. 52 44.83%
Hate it: this evil spawn of Satan will never defile the sanctity of my computer. 26 22.41%
It's OK with a Start Menu replacement and while bypassing Metro. 38 32.76%
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Old 29th Feb 2012, 14:58   #41
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Interestingly it looks like they've added the ability to manually close metro apps.
Just seen a response on 4chan

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This is 10000 time better than Developer Preview"

dis is starting to sound promising 45 minutes remaining...
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Downloaded now just got to get home from work and try it out as a VM.

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Barrelling down my connection at 12MBps - nice to see MS isn't doing a Raspberry Pi...

On another note, any sign on the server releases?
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Will the installer version work like WUBI, enabling to install and un-install without affecting the current OS, or do we need to go partitioning?
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lol that thread still makes me blush today back on topic

whey 11 minutes left, anyone got it up and running yet? been a constant 1mb/s on my end with a 50mb/s connection so i'm guessing there servers are taking quite a hit...
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Got it downloaded and setup has just finished sticking it on a USB drive so I can install on a new partition. Off I go to install!!
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I just started downloading this Now I have to find another hard drive to install this windows 8 beta so i can test this thing out.. hmm

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Old 29th Feb 2012, 15:47   #49
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Windows 8 can be put "to go", like Linux Live disk. This is really cool. It works on a USB key as well.

I must said the Storage space feature is kick-ass... you can just add drive or USB drives and it expends a partition... so lets say you have C:\ that is 160GB, and you need more space... add a USB key of 4 GB, and your C:\ drive is now 164GB. And you can add as much as you want, as long as you have additional ports SATA or USB on your computer.
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seriously, GB? DAMN! now that's handy! but are you a bit worried that if you take that 4 GB away you lose some data?? or does it fix itself??
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Well got Windows 8 installed and am using it. Metro IE feels a bit strange, all fullscreen with no toolbars or buttons.
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what about the drivers? will it work out of the box or do we have to install the drivers ourselves?? I'm just concerned about that issue..
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This does sound promising, despite my initial thoughts.

So everyone, is it still just for touchscreen fags then? Or is it more user friendly on the desktop now?
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what about the drivers? will it work out of the box or do we have to install the drivers ourselves?? I'm just concerned about that issue..
its better for drivers where before i had to download on windows 7, all my devices work out the box
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what about the drivers? will it work out of the box or do we have to install the drivers ourselves?? I'm just concerned about that issue..
If there are Win 7 drivers for your hardware then it should work fine in Win 8. Not had to go find any drivers for anything installed in my system.
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