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fdbh96 · 21st Mar 2012, 16:32

Hi,

Im looking for a program that will convert my music from 320kbps (CD Rips) and 256kbps (iTunes) to a smaller file size.

What is the smallest file size you would recommend and how would I go about this?

TIA

RichCreedy · 21st Mar 2012, 16:36

well if it wasnt for the fact that you use itunes i would say use wma (windows media audio), file sizes are a hell of a lot smaller.

Cleggmeister · 21st Mar 2012, 16:45

Dbpoweramp music converter.

fdbh96 · 21st Mar 2012, 16:45

Its to go on a memory card in a (oldish) phone.

fdbh96 · 21st Mar 2012, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleggmeister

Dbpoweramp music converter.

Looks good... How small should I go on the kbps. I assume kbps is what decides the file size other than length.

Deders · 21st Mar 2012, 19:48

Bear in mind that encoding music twice generally isn't a good idea, will be better quality if you can encode them from the source.

spolsh · 21st Mar 2012, 20:57

Can only speak for mp3's , but, under 192 kbps always seems to sound wrong to me, you lose a lot of audio quality with the compression. Rip a CD to 128 kbps and you'll probably be able to hear what i mean. 320 kbps sounds good, but obviously flac and wav tend to give even better sound (with a much larger file, not what you want). Doing a variable bit rate can help lower file sizes a little.

If it's to use the phone as a walkman type thing, see if it's possible to get a larger memory card maybe ?

Freeware app for conversion - Freemake Audio Converter - i found it off a google search, so can't say how good it is, but it says it does what you'd want. Maybe try converting a track to a few different formats and see if any suit your needs ?

deadsea · 22nd Mar 2012, 00:37

foobar 2k? Converts from any format to whatever you want. As for bit rate, you might want to think about where you'll be listening to that music. Noisy subway with somewhat decent in-ears where you can still hear the crowds. You'll probably be able to get by with 192kbps. Leaky earbuds, maybe 128. Essentially the better you can hear the music, (quiet surroundings / better sound isolating equipment etc) the higher you'd want the bitrate. No point bringing around quality if you can't actually hear it.

PS: Entirely my POV as I've done it before. Bringing FLAC around though the surroundings are so noisy that unless i blast my music I can't hear the details. Until I had a duh moment while I was yet again swapping out the songs dus to storage constraints.

lysaer · 22nd Mar 2012, 02:25

Check out audacity, also 128 is the lowest I would recommend to go, 256 is the lowest I would personally go, also use VBR

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fdbh96 · 22nd Mar 2012, 06:35

Thanks for the suggestions and I'll just try them all out to see which is best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spolsh

If it's to use the phone as a walkman type thing, see if it's possible to get a larger memory card maybe ?

the card is already 4gb up from 512mb and I only listen to music on it rarely so I don't really think it would be worth it.

Deders · 22nd Mar 2012, 06:42

How many song are you trying to fit on? I can get over 400 highest quality VBR's on to 4 GB and still have room to spare.

sb1991 · 22nd Mar 2012, 08:22

At low bitrates, AAC generally gives the best quality. If you're listening on a phone, 128Kbps AAC is probably fine.

fdbh96 · 22nd Mar 2012, 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deders

How many song are you trying to fit on? I can get over 400 highest quality VBR's on to 4 GB and still have room to spare.

Not sure how many, just some favourite songs from albums, but probably about 200. And what are VBRs?.

spolsh · 22nd Mar 2012, 20:02

VBR = variable bit rate.

Deders · 22nd Mar 2012, 21:24

If it's only 200 or so you should have no problem, 320's aren't that much bigger than hq VBR's.

rickythomas · 27th Mar 2012, 10:22

I also agree with the point mentioned by Dedar, as the source media file will be nice to go with instead of editing the copied one.

Warner0001 · 28th Mar 2012, 02:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdbh96

Hi,

Im looking for a program that will convert my music from 320kbps (CD Rips) and 256kbps (iTunes) to a smaller file size.

What is the smallest file size you would recommend and how would I go about this?

TIA

There is a one of the best dvd slideshow softerware in http://dvdslideshow.net, which can be used to edit pictures, music and video, you can import the music first and save as multiple formats, the flv format should be much smaller than the one you need.

DystopianDream · 3rd Apr 2012, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb1991

At low bitrates, AAC generally gives the best quality. If you're listening on a phone, 128Kbps AAC is probably fine.

^^this. If you're keeping the originals for normal use and these are just for your phone, 128AAC is perfect. Lowest bitrate you can get away with with it still sounding decent.

To get there you can use iTunes. Change CD import settings to 128aac and then right click on the files in iTunes and choose "create aac version"

If for some reason you don't want to use iTunes, a standalone, powerful (but slightly more complex to use) encoder is fre:ac. Free and open source and is properly multithereaded so its faster on good machines. (iTunes only uses 2 cores unless something has changed recently).

You just need to select FAAC encoder and "configure selected encoder" to 64kbs per channel, max frequncey to 41100 (41.1khz), allow joint stereo, don't allow temporal noise shaping, and under format tab choose MP4 and LC.

Enjoy

21st Mar 2012, 16:32	#1
fdbh96 I am a Dremel Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,699	Software for reducing Music size Hi, Im looking for a program that will convert my music from 320kbps (CD Rips) and 256kbps (iTunes) to a smaller file size. What is the smallest file size you would recommend and how would I go about this? TIA

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Deders I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Here and there, mostly there Posts: 3,372	How many song are you trying to fit on? I can get over 400 highest quality VBR's on to 4 GB and still have room to spare. __________________ i5 750@3800 - MSI P55 GD65 - Asus GTX670 DirectCU II - 4GB OCZ DDR3 @1440 7-7-7-18 - Be Quiet! Straight Power E9 500W - Nanoxia Deep Silence One - X-FI Xtreme Gamer - Samsung 830 128GB - Spinpoint F3 1TB - WD Caviar Blue 640 - LG Flatron W2252TQ - Razer Deathadder - Thermaltake Contac 29.

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21st Mar 2012, 20:57	#7
spolsh Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: leeds Posts: 178	Can only speak for mp3's , but, under 192 kbps always seems to sound wrong to me, you lose a lot of audio quality with the compression. Rip a CD to 128 kbps and you'll probably be able to hear what i mean. 320 kbps sounds good, but obviously flac and wav tend to give even better sound (with a much larger file, not what you want). Doing a variable bit rate can help lower file sizes a little. If it's to use the phone as a walkman type thing, see if it's possible to get a larger memory card maybe ? Freeware app for conversion - Freemake Audio Converter - i found it off a google search, so can't say how good it is, but it says it does what you'd want. Maybe try converting a track to a few different formats and see if any suit your needs ?

22nd Mar 2012, 00:37	#8
deadsea Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 197	foobar 2k? Converts from any format to whatever you want. As for bit rate, you might want to think about where you'll be listening to that music. Noisy subway with somewhat decent in-ears where you can still hear the crowds. You'll probably be able to get by with 192kbps. Leaky earbuds, maybe 128. Essentially the better you can hear the music, (quiet surroundings / better sound isolating equipment etc) the higher you'd want the bitrate. No point bringing around quality if you can't actually hear it. PS: Entirely my POV as I've done it before. Bringing FLAC around though the surroundings are so noisy that unless i blast my music I can't hear the details. Until I had a duh moment while I was yet again swapping out the songs dus to storage constraints.

22nd Mar 2012, 02:25	#9
lysaer Suck my unit! Kirk lazarus (2008) Join Date: May 2010 Location: London Posts: 911	Check out audacity, also 128 is the lowest I would recommend to go, 256 is the lowest I would personally go, also use VBR Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using Tapatalk

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22nd Mar 2012, 20:02	#14
spolsh Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: leeds Posts: 178	VBR = variable bit rate.

22nd Mar 2012, 21:24	#15
Deders I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Here and there, mostly there Posts: 3,372	If it's only 200 or so you should have no problem, 320's aren't that much bigger than hq VBR's. __________________ i5 750@3800 - MSI P55 GD65 - Asus GTX670 DirectCU II - 4GB OCZ DDR3 @1440 7-7-7-18 - Be Quiet! Straight Power E9 500W - Nanoxia Deep Silence One - X-FI Xtreme Gamer - Samsung 830 128GB - Spinpoint F3 1TB - WD Caviar Blue 640 - LG Flatron W2252TQ - Razer Deathadder - Thermaltake Contac 29.

27th Mar 2012, 10:22	#16
rickythomas What's a Dremel? Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2	I also agree with the point mentioned by Dedar, as the source media file will be nice to go with instead of editing the copied one.