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brumgrunt · 23rd Mar 2012, 10:43

Asetek has demonstrated a new liquid cooling system for laptops and AOI PCs.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...oling-laptop/1

TheDodoKiller · 23rd Mar 2012, 10:50

Hey, as soon as it's affordable, count me in.

towelie · 23rd Mar 2012, 10:56

Woah this is insane, the price will be massive though espically if alienware are to play a part.

Interesting stuff though.

JCBeastie · 23rd Mar 2012, 11:13

I really don't see the advantage of a liquid cooler in a laptop; chiefly because of all Aseteks touted claims can be achieved by heatpipe/vapour chamber coolers. There's no reason why a laptop CPU/GPU can't share a heatsink or series of connected sinks. Exactly the same results as the liquid system only potentially more compact, uses no extra power, has a lower chance for mechanical failure and would be lighter (less fluid involved and no pump).

ChaosDefinesOrder · 23rd Mar 2012, 11:55

liquid inside a laptop? what could possibly go wrong?!

Than again, with the very fixed nature of laptop components you can easily have a solid, non-expiring fluid path removing almost all sources of potential leaks...

west · 23rd Mar 2012, 13:30

JCBeastie advantage is _much_ faster liquid transfer over components along with _more_ water (the more water in the line the colder any given component will be).

The Infamous Mr D · 23rd Mar 2012, 14:03

I'm honestly astounded this is the first time that anyone has ever spoken about liquid cooling (a great thermal dissipation technology) in a small thermally challenged consumer-orientated environment (laptops).

Seriously, this should have been done years ago!

warejon9 · 23rd Mar 2012, 14:45

That was quite a chunky laptop, and if there was a voltage increase, and extra power due to pump what is the battery life like?

mucgoo · 23rd Mar 2012, 14:48

The main limitation is the amount of of radiators surface area and air flow over the radiators with the main advantage of desktop water cooling lying in the fact it can effectively distribute heat to a much larger radiator than pipes.
Liquid cooling will actually infringe on that constraint due to being bulkier than a normal heat pipes

Showerhead · 23rd Mar 2012, 15:07

Wonder what effect on battery life will be.

digitaldunc · 23rd Mar 2012, 17:24

Goes without saying that this will need to be bombproof.

Very niche market, but +1 to Asetek for innovation, if it works as the video states.

themassau · 23rd Mar 2012, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showerhead

Wonder what effect on battery life will be.

if it is a low power pump then the battery life will shorten in idle situations but it might stay the same when it is at load because the chips will run cooler and run more efficient. don't forget forget that lcd screen use the most battery power.

Dave Lister · 23rd Mar 2012, 18:50

I still have a clevo d900t (non functional) and the insides look very similar to that apart from the pump of course. Oh, if any one needs any parts for a d900t pm me, the thing is just sitting around gathering dust.

rodeltt · 23rd Mar 2012, 19:55

The thought of a water cooled laptop horrifies me. It might be fine when new but a year or two on its just something else to go wrong, imagine a water leak on the motherboard - terminal! Plus what effects would air travel and the pressurization changes have in promoting a water leak.

JCBeastie · 23rd Mar 2012, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by west

JCBeastie advantage is _much_ faster liquid transfer over components along with _more_ water (the more water in the line the colder any given component will be).

You are ultimately limited by the heat exchanger, and since this solution doesn't offer any more surface area compared to a traditional heatsink I fail to see the improvement. Heatpipe coolers have proven to be very efficient, since essentially they work under the same phase-change principles as say; a fridge. Liquid coolers have an advantage that they can transport heat to a larger radiator than you could sit on top of say, a CPU, hence greater cooling ability.

All this soloution adds is bulk and greater chance of failure. I'm not convinced.

rogerrabbits · 25th Mar 2012, 08:52

I wonder if they will have some way to top up the liquid.

Picarro · 25th Mar 2012, 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogerrabbits

I wonder if they will have some way to top up the liquid.

There shouldn't be a need. It's the same principle as with the Corsair H series. It is a hermetically sealed environment so if you actually need to fill it up you have a bigger problem since it will be leaking somewhere!

leslie · 25th Mar 2012, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Infamous Mr D

I'm honestly astounded this is the first time that anyone has ever spoken about liquid cooling (a great thermal dissipation technology) in a small thermally challenged consumer-orientated environment (laptops).

Seriously, this should have been done years ago!

It has been done a few times before but never got very far. I beleive Lenovo tried it once, as did someone else.

rogerrabbits · 25th Mar 2012, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picarro

There shouldn't be a need. It's the same principle as with the Corsair H series. It is a hermetically sealed environment so if you actually need to fill it up you have a bigger problem since it will be leaking somewhere!

Ahh nice. It would be good to start getting laptops that dont cook peoples testicles for a change :P Not that I would ever buy one, way too expensive for me. Maybe if I win the lotto some day.

PingCrosby · 27th Mar 2012, 07:30

Our local pub has liquid cooling, has had it for years.

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23rd Mar 2012, 11:13	#4
JCBeastie Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sunny Cornwall Posts: 254	I really don't see the advantage of a liquid cooler in a laptop; chiefly because of all Aseteks touted claims can be achieved by heatpipe/vapour chamber coolers. There's no reason why a laptop CPU/GPU can't share a heatsink or series of connected sinks. Exactly the same results as the liquid system only potentially more compact, uses no extra power, has a lower chance for mechanical failure and would be lighter (less fluid involved and no pump).

23rd Mar 2012, 13:30	#6
west Minimodder Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 48	JCBeastie advantage is _much_ faster liquid transfer over components along with _more_ water (the more water in the line the colder any given component will be).

23rd Mar 2012, 14:45	#8
warejon9 Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Dorset Posts: 165	That was quite a chunky laptop, and if there was a voltage increase, and extra power due to pump what is the battery life like?

23rd Mar 2012, 14:48	#9
mucgoo Ultramodder Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Havant Posts: 1,346	The main limitation is the amount of of radiators surface area and air flow over the radiators with the main advantage of desktop water cooling lying in the fact it can effectively distribute heat to a much larger radiator than pipes. Liquid cooling will actually infringe on that constraint due to being bulkier than a normal heat pipes

23rd Mar 2012, 15:07	#10
Showerhead Ultramodder Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 1,110	Wonder what effect on battery life will be.

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digitaldunc Soylent green is horses! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rural Scotland. Posts: 572	Goes without saying that this will need to be bombproof. Very niche market, but +1 to Asetek for innovation, if it works as the video states. __________________ Event-horizon: i7 2600K @ 4.5 @ ~1.3v \| 16Gb Corsair Vengeance @ 1866 9-10-9-24-2T \| 2 x 580 1.5Gb (SLI) 772/1002 \| Asus P8P67 Deluxe \| Crucial M4 256Gb \| Spinpoint F3 1TB \| Corsair HX1000 \| ZM-MFC1 Fan controller \| XSPC Dual res \| 2 x DDC 18W \| Black ice stealth 360 \| ThermoChill PA120.4 \| EK Supreme HF Nickel \| 2 x EK 580 Plexi \| 7 x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1450RPM \| Modded TJ07

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Dave Lister DemonHighwayman Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brittany, France / Scottish Highlands Posts: 467	I still have a clevo d900t (non functional) and the insides look very similar to that apart from the pump of course. Oh, if any one needs any parts for a d900t pm me, the thing is just sitting around gathering dust. __________________ Main Rig:Case: CoolerMaster Cosmos S, Motherboard: Asus M4A785TD-V Evo, CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T, RAM: 8Gb 1600Mhz Corsair Vengeance GPU: XFX ATI 5870, Primary HDD: 128Gb Kingston SSDNOW 200, Optical Drive: LG Super Multi Blue HTPC:Case: Gutted out VCR, Motherboard: Asus AT5IONT-I, CPU: Intel Atom D525 @ 1.94Ghz, RAM: 4Gb 1333Mhz Kingston GPU: Nvidia Ion 2, Primary HDD: Hitachi 500Gb, Optical Drive: NEC ND-6500A Laptop Drive

23rd Mar 2012, 19:55	#14
rodeltt What's a Dremel? Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6	The thought of a water cooled laptop horrifies me. It might be fine when new but a year or two on its just something else to go wrong, imagine a water leak on the motherboard - terminal! Plus what effects would air travel and the pressurization changes have in promoting a water leak.

25th Mar 2012, 08:52	#16
rogerrabbits Banned Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 577	I wonder if they will have some way to top up the liquid.

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PingCrosby Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sunny Redcar in Cleveland Posts: 327	Our local pub has liquid cooling, has had it for years.