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brumgrunt · 28th Mar 2012, 11:16

OCZ has released the Arowana 3.55 update for its Vertex, Agility and Solid2 SSDs.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...id2-firmware/1

greypilgers · 28th Mar 2012, 16:30

What a ridiculous update. Some performance boost on some models but with a guaranteed loss of capacity? Just another reason to buy an M4.

Edwards · 28th Mar 2012, 17:15

Well, that's what over provisioning is: extra space in reserve on the disk to reduce write amplification.

In fact, if you did the same on an M4 it would speed it up too. What a ridiculous comment.

greypilgers · 28th Mar 2012, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edwards

Well, that's what over provisioning is: extra space in reserve on the disk to reduce write amplification.

In fact, if you did the same on an M4 it would speed it up too. What a ridiculous comment.

Not a ridiculous comment - a ridiculous update, and for the following reasons:

Destructive
Only applicable to a restricted number of a particular model
Reduces the capacity on an already reduced capacity drive due to overprovisioning.

Why don't they use 90% of the drive space for overprovisioning, and sell people a 256Gb SSD with 8Gb of free space? That'll be really fast!

The M4 doesn't need overprovisioning to be fast. At least when you buy a 128Gb M4 you basically get 128Gb (near enough anyway). Also the updates are not destructive, they apply to all M4s and there is no reduction on your capcity to boot!

fdbh96 · 28th Mar 2012, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by greypilgers

Not a ridiculous comment - a ridiculous update, and for the following reasons:

Destructive
Only applicable to a restricted number of a particular model
Reduces the capacity on an already reduced capacity drive due to overprovisioning.

Why don't they use 90% of the drive space for overprovisioning, and sell people a 256Gb SSD with 8Gb of free space? That'll be really fast!

The M4 doesn't need overprovisioning to be fast. At least when you buy a 128Gb M4 you basically get 128Gb (near enough anyway). Also the updates are not destructive, they apply to all M4s and there is no reduction on your capcity to boot!

What about the people who have an ocz drive at the moment? Surely they will want the higher speed?

Edit: just read the article fully

and that is actually rather a lot of over provisioning for not a lot of gain :/

west · 28th Mar 2012, 21:30

Bad update?
you lose about 5.3% of space and gain 28% sequential write speed!
Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me - especially since I got my SSD because it's FAST, not big.

greypilgers · 29th Mar 2012, 07:48

I suppose it all depends upon your point of view - with this type of drive, expecially with this update, there is quite a large reduction in capacity over the M4 et al (total space loss approx 17% of the drive for 128Gb), meaning that the realistic Gb per £ ratio is much reduced, and I don't believe the increase in speed averaged out across all situations is worth sacrificing all that capacity.

west · 29th Mar 2012, 10:38

well you've payed for your drive already, if you don't think the upgrade is a good idea then you don't have to use it. if you think it would be a good idea then great news, there it is!
seems like a not-lose, win situation to me. whats so bad about that?

docodine · 31st Mar 2012, 03:13

Cool, this might apply to me.

west · 3rd Apr 2012, 21:46

PS: you can get the same random write performance boost by formatting your drive with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDDerase

It resets all flash cells so they don't have to be erased before a write operation (making random write slow at times - slowing your SSD significantly over time, even with TRIM enabled).

28th Mar 2012, 11:16	#1
brumgrunt Administrator bit-tech Staff Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,009	OCZ releases Vertex, Agility, Solid2 firmware update OCZ has released the Arowana 3.55 update for its Vertex, Agility and Solid2 SSDs. http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...id2-firmware/1

28th Mar 2012, 16:30	#2
greypilgers Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fareham - in the sticks Posts: 401	What a ridiculous update. Some performance boost on some models but with a guaranteed loss of capacity? Just another reason to buy an M4. __________________ Quote from Bungletron: And certainly if my house was burglarized I would phonerelize the police right away, what idiot would not? Bungletron, I salute you!

28th Mar 2012, 17:15	#3
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29th Mar 2012, 07:48	#7
greypilgers Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fareham - in the sticks Posts: 401	I suppose it all depends upon your point of view - with this type of drive, expecially with this update, there is quite a large reduction in capacity over the M4 et al (total space loss approx 17% of the drive for 128Gb), meaning that the realistic Gb per £ ratio is much reduced, and I don't believe the increase in speed averaged out across all situations is worth sacrificing all that capacity. __________________ Quote from Bungletron: And certainly if my house was burglarized I would phonerelize the police right away, what idiot would not? Bungletron, I salute you!

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28th Mar 2012, 21:30	#6
west Minimodder Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 48	Bad update? you lose about 5.3% of space and gain 28% sequential write speed! Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me - especially since I got my SSD because it's FAST, not big.

29th Mar 2012, 10:38	#8
west Minimodder Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 48	well you've payed for your drive already, if you don't think the upgrade is a good idea then you don't have to use it. if you think it would be a good idea then great news, there it is! seems like a not-lose, win situation to me. whats so bad about that?

3rd Apr 2012, 21:46	#10
west Minimodder Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 48	PS: you can get the same random write performance boost by formatting your drive with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDDerase It resets all flash cells so they don't have to be erased before a write operation (making random write slow at times - slowing your SSD significantly over time, even with TRIM enabled).