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modfx · 3rd Apr 2012, 22:36

Hi Guys,

I've started getting a windows error saying "Windows detected a hard disk problem" and basically tells me to back up my files and then change/repair/RMA the HDD.

It started today and seems to pop up at random intervals ranging between 15 min to a couple of hours.

How much do I panic?

Pookeyhead · 3rd Apr 2012, 22:41

Hve you backed up? If not.... Panic.... Then back up.

modd1uk · 3rd Apr 2012, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookeyhead

Hve you backed up? If not.... Panic.... Then back up.

This ^^ unless its not important information then take a sledge hammer to it and buy a new one

modfx · 3rd Apr 2012, 22:46

Yep, anything I care about is backed up, reckon now is a good excuse to hold off the monitor upgrade (again) and get a SSD?

modd1uk · 3rd Apr 2012, 22:48

What size drive is it ? An ssd will never be a bad upgrade from a mechanical HDD

modfx · 3rd Apr 2012, 22:50

1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F3, just noticed I've spelt spinpoint wrong in my sig.

Have been mulling over getting one for a while but I can never justify it over a MB, GPU, CPU etc upgrade.

faugusztin · 3rd Apr 2012, 22:52

1) back up data
2) depending on hard drive manufacturer get the official tool for the specific brand :
Western Digital Data Lifeguard Diagnostic
Seagate Seatools
Samsung - no idea, HUTIL probably, but i guess someone else will give you the exact name of the tool

Test the drive, if it says it is bad then RMA it.

modd1uk · 3rd Apr 2012, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by modfx

1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F3, just noticed I've spelt spinpoint wrong in my sig.

You would have to lose a lot of information to be able to switch to an SSD then, or spend big bucks ! As im typing this i think my F3 is dying

, movies keep freezing and then drive is unresponsive. Fuuu such a bad time to buy a mechanical hdd now too.

faugusztin · 3rd Apr 2012, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by modd1uk

Fuuu such a bad time to buy a mechanical hdd now too.

Still not as bad as few months ago. Preflood price of WD20EARX - 71 euro. Post flood price - 150-200 euro. Current price - 105-115 euro. Not the preflood price, but already lower than 1,5-2 years ago (at that time, it was 135 euro if i remember correctly).

modfx · 3rd Apr 2012, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by faugusztin

1) back up data
2) depending on hard drive manufacturer get the official tool for the specific brand :
Western Digital Data Lifeguard Diagnostic
Seagate Seatools
Samsung - no idea, HUTIL probably, but i guess someone else will give you the exact name of the tool

Test the drive, if it says it is bad then RMA it.

Doing that now, I think it has a 36 month warranty with scan so should be able to RMA but I don't want to be without a PC for even a couple of days, seeing that Scan no longer have it listed, I'm guessing it may be a bit longer than that.

modd1uk · 3rd Apr 2012, 23:08

Scan do still sell the F3, i have just looked

modfx · 3rd Apr 2012, 23:33

I can has linky please? can't seem to find it :<

modd1uk · 3rd Apr 2012, 23:35

DOH didn't look properly, its only the 500GB well thats a fooker. Says direct RMA on samsung drives anyway so save the time and RMA it to samsung direct, i think thats where mine is going to end up

mattyh1995 · 3rd Apr 2012, 23:37

A little offtopic, an appropriate second test to see if anything is dead = poke it with a stick.

modfx · 3rd Apr 2012, 23:38

Yarp. Now,the question is: What shall be my new HDD?

modd1uk · 3rd Apr 2012, 23:42

We talking SSD...if so, what size ? 128gb would be nice...i run an M4.

modfx · 4th Apr 2012, 00:49

I was looking at that. Will my motherboard support it?

Mac_Trekkie · 4th Apr 2012, 02:50

Okay, if your mechanical HDD is dead, there is one solution that might work when you have nothing to use. Grab the drive, find a hard surface, and just give it a good solid smack on the surface. Not hard enough to damage the exterior, but enough to dislodge any stuck parts. Obviously do it when the drive is powered off. It has saved a couple drives for me, and done nothing on a couple more. It's worth a try since if it doesn't work you haven't exactly lost anything you weren't going to use anyways.

faugusztin · 4th Apr 2012, 07:11

Mac_Trekkie, are you serious ? For starters, he will lose warranty if he does that. Second, his drive works, but corrupts data. That means he has platter surface problems, and no "stuck parts".

modfx · 4th Apr 2012, 08:36

Not whacking it on anything lol.

I'll decide and order whatever SSD I'm getting tonight and rma the f3 when it turns up. Other than the pop up,no issues so far apart from maybe a little slowdown in game loading so hopefully it will last until then.

I think I might get a 128Gb crucial m4, seems like a good choice going by several members sig. The price seems reasonable too. I'm open to suggestion though.

Either way, thanks a lot for the advice, much appreciated

3rd Apr 2012, 22:36	#1
modfx Loft Gremlin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hiding in your attic Posts: 207	Is it dead? Hi Guys, I've started getting a windows error saying "Windows detected a hard disk problem" and basically tells me to back up my files and then change/repair/RMA the HDD. It started today and seems to pop up at random intervals ranging between 15 min to a couple of hours. How much do I panic? __________________ Modified Silverstone Temjin TJ-07B - Core i7 920 - Asus Rampage II Extreme - 3x2Gb Corsair Dominator 1600MHz - GTX570 - 9600GT - 128GB Crucial M4 - 1tb Samsung Spinpoint F3 - Corsair HX1000W -Win 7 HP 64 bit - Samsung 206BW

3rd Apr 2012, 22:41	#2
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3rd Apr 2012, 22:46	#4
modfx Loft Gremlin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hiding in your attic Posts: 207	Yep, anything I care about is backed up, reckon now is a good excuse to hold off the monitor upgrade (again) and get a SSD? __________________ Modified Silverstone Temjin TJ-07B - Core i7 920 - Asus Rampage II Extreme - 3x2Gb Corsair Dominator 1600MHz - GTX570 - 9600GT - 128GB Crucial M4 - 1tb Samsung Spinpoint F3 - Corsair HX1000W -Win 7 HP 64 bit - Samsung 206BW

3rd Apr 2012, 22:50	#6
modfx Loft Gremlin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hiding in your attic Posts: 207	1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F3, just noticed I've spelt spinpoint wrong in my sig. Have been mulling over getting one for a while but I can never justify it over a MB, GPU, CPU etc upgrade. __________________ Modified Silverstone Temjin TJ-07B - Core i7 920 - Asus Rampage II Extreme - 3x2Gb Corsair Dominator 1600MHz - GTX570 - 9600GT - 128GB Crucial M4 - 1tb Samsung Spinpoint F3 - Corsair HX1000W -Win 7 HP 64 bit - Samsung 206BW

3rd Apr 2012, 22:52	#7
faugusztin I am the guy with two left hands Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia Posts: 4,714	1) back up data 2) depending on hard drive manufacturer get the official tool for the specific brand : Western Digital Data Lifeguard Diagnostic Seagate Seatools Samsung - no idea, HUTIL probably, but i guess someone else will give you the exact name of the tool Test the drive, if it says it is bad then RMA it. __________________ Cerberus Core i7-2600K Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe GSkill RipjawsX 2x8GB DDR3-1600CL9 watercooled EVGA GTX670 Samsung 830 256GB Bitfenix Prodigy Seasonic X-460 Windows 8 Pro Prometheus Xeon E3-1235 Asus P8B WS GSkill RipjawsX 2x4GB DDR3-1333CL7+2x8GB DDR3-1333CL9 Coolink Corator DS Force 3 240GB+4xWD30EFRX+2xWD20EARS+6xWD20EARX Nanoxia DS1 Seasonic X-460 Ubuntu 12.04

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3rd Apr 2012, 23:33	#12
modfx Loft Gremlin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hiding in your attic Posts: 207	I can has linky please? can't seem to find it :< __________________ Modified Silverstone Temjin TJ-07B - Core i7 920 - Asus Rampage II Extreme - 3x2Gb Corsair Dominator 1600MHz - GTX570 - 9600GT - 128GB Crucial M4 - 1tb Samsung Spinpoint F3 - Corsair HX1000W -Win 7 HP 64 bit - Samsung 206BW

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mattyh1995 Supermodder Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Leigh, Wigan, United Kingdom Posts: 487	A little offtopic, an appropriate second test to see if anything is dead = poke it with a stick. __________________ \| Intel Core i7 2600k \| ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z \| 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 @ 1600mhz \| \| MSI GTX580 Twin Frozr II \| \| 64GB OCZ Agility 3 + 2TB Storage \| CM Storm Stryker \| Corsair TX750 PSU \| Asus Xonar DX \| Acer G245HQ \| \|Steam - [UK] Holcroft\|

3rd Apr 2012, 23:38	#15
modfx Loft Gremlin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hiding in your attic Posts: 207	Yarp. Now,the question is: What shall be my new HDD? __________________ Modified Silverstone Temjin TJ-07B - Core i7 920 - Asus Rampage II Extreme - 3x2Gb Corsair Dominator 1600MHz - GTX570 - 9600GT - 128GB Crucial M4 - 1tb Samsung Spinpoint F3 - Corsair HX1000W -Win 7 HP 64 bit - Samsung 206BW

4th Apr 2012, 00:49	#17
modfx Loft Gremlin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hiding in your attic Posts: 207	I was looking at that. Will my motherboard support it? __________________ Modified Silverstone Temjin TJ-07B - Core i7 920 - Asus Rampage II Extreme - 3x2Gb Corsair Dominator 1600MHz - GTX570 - 9600GT - 128GB Crucial M4 - 1tb Samsung Spinpoint F3 - Corsair HX1000W -Win 7 HP 64 bit - Samsung 206BW

4th Apr 2012, 02:50	#18
Mac_Trekkie Source Engine's #1 fan! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Sol system, 4th planet from the sun Posts: 636	Okay, if your mechanical HDD is dead, there is one solution that might work when you have nothing to use. Grab the drive, find a hard surface, and just give it a good solid smack on the surface. Not hard enough to damage the exterior, but enough to dislodge any stuck parts. Obviously do it when the drive is powered off. It has saved a couple drives for me, and done nothing on a couple more. It's worth a try since if it doesn't work you haven't exactly lost anything you weren't going to use anyways. __________________ The Brass Balls: i7 870 @ 4.2ghz \| Cooler: CM Hyper 212+ \| 8gb G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 \| GPU: ZOTAC GTX 560 Ti 448-core 1,280mb \| Motherboard: MSI P55-GD65 \| Case: ThermalTake Element G \| ThermalTake 850w PSU \| Samsung Spinpoint F3 1tb \| Corsair Nova 32gb SSD

4th Apr 2012, 07:11	#19
faugusztin I am the guy with two left hands Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia Posts: 4,714	Mac_Trekkie, are you serious ? For starters, he will lose warranty if he does that. Second, his drive works, but corrupts data. That means he has platter surface problems, and no "stuck parts". __________________ Cerberus Core i7-2600K Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe GSkill RipjawsX 2x8GB DDR3-1600CL9 watercooled EVGA GTX670 Samsung 830 256GB Bitfenix Prodigy Seasonic X-460 Windows 8 Pro Prometheus Xeon E3-1235 Asus P8B WS GSkill RipjawsX 2x4GB DDR3-1333CL7+2x8GB DDR3-1333CL9 Coolink Corator DS Force 3 240GB+4xWD30EFRX+2xWD20EARS+6xWD20EARX Nanoxia DS1 Seasonic X-460 Ubuntu 12.04

4th Apr 2012, 08:36	#20
modfx Loft Gremlin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hiding in your attic Posts: 207	Not whacking it on anything lol. I'll decide and order whatever SSD I'm getting tonight and rma the f3 when it turns up. Other than the pop up,no issues so far apart from maybe a little slowdown in game loading so hopefully it will last until then. I think I might get a 128Gb crucial m4, seems like a good choice going by several members sig. The price seems reasonable too. I'm open to suggestion though. Either way, thanks a lot for the advice, much appreciated __________________ Modified Silverstone Temjin TJ-07B - Core i7 920 - Asus Rampage II Extreme - 3x2Gb Corsair Dominator 1600MHz - GTX570 - 9600GT - 128GB Crucial M4 - 1tb Samsung Spinpoint F3 - Corsair HX1000W -Win 7 HP 64 bit - Samsung 206BW