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Old 10th Jul 2012, 08:47   #241
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Bit: "So Simon can you tell us what your going to do when you get your 3920XM"

Si "I'm going to Disneyland! Woooooooh"
He even gets to go to Disneyland, he is splashing a lotta cash. Although he should max out the holiday and go Disney World. You gotta upgrade!
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Old 10th Jul 2012, 10:24   #242
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Seems to be the same here. Temps when benching are around 75degrees. Boost is always at around 1100 to 1150MHz, and goes up to 1176 when it drops below 70C.
A fine choice of card you have made there That's just about what mine do. Over 80 gpu 1 used to drop to 1110 due to suffocation.

Underwater they never go below 1150 stock and I run them at 1200~ anyway
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You 2 are forgetting that your cards are SC which are far from a vanilla card. Also you will have a high flowing rear bracket which helps maintain lower temps. Also not forgetting where your chip came from on the die can result in higher boost clocks and lower temps. So again, this can result in you being within the threshold to maintain boost all the time.

I'm sure when reading around you will find cards dropping to the stock core once temps get to the threshold.

Also you need to bare in mind that anyone running 3Dmark 11 etc will OC their cards to get maximum performance, so yes N17 - your score will look low to the norm.
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Maintain lower temps with SC cards? I said that mine on air hit 85c because it was suffocated and still boosted beyond the manufacturers stated boost speed.

Me being right near the bottom of that graph is because I was the only person that had lowered my speed by 250Mhz, obviously!!!

I'm sorry to fall out with you T_G but this feels more like an exercise in trying to belittle high end Nvidia desktop cards for someone who has an AMD laptop.
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Maintain lower temps with SC cards? I said that mine on air hit 85c because it was suffocated and still boosted beyond the manufacturers stated boost speed.

Me being right near the bottom of that graph is because I was the only person that had lowered my speed by 250Mhz, obviously!!!

I'm sorry to fall out with you T_G but this feels more like an exercise in trying to belittle high end Nvidia desktop cards for someone who has an AMD laptop.
Well, we can all agree that a single 670/680, will always provide a better gaming experience than any two mobile GPUs, even at 'stock' - which, by the way I agree with Dizzi on, and should include the boost, since its ships on all cards by default. If you read Techreports in depth article, you'll see that in BF3 (arguably the ultimate real world test of a GPU) "the chip spent most of its time at about 1.1GHz—above both the base and boost levels."

No 50ms+ frame renders (common complaint with any SLI/X-Fire setup), less noise, and far better bang for buck.

You don't buy a gaming laptop to get the fastest speeds (never going to happen), and as a value proposition, its pretty terrible too, but, the 7970m are nevertheless impressive....... for a laptop GPU.

No doubt when TG decides he wants to play with the big boys again, he'll be back to 4GB 680's!
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Hahaha. Disneyland first this year, then Egypt next year. So Disney World and the rest around the international drive is on the agenda for the yr after.

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Maintain lower temps with SC cards? I said that mine on air hit 85c because it was suffocated and still boosted beyond the manufacturers stated boost speed.

Me being right near the bottom of that graph is because I was the only person that had lowered my speed by 250Mhz, obviously!!!

I'm sorry to fall out with you T_G but this feels more like an exercise in trying to belittle high end Nvidia desktop cards for someone who has an AMD laptop.
You're taking this to heart, when all I'm doing is seeing where the 7970m's fit in with the desktop GPU's.

You're now quoting me to be a fanboy of AMD? I only buy what ever is faster at the time of making my purchase, so obviously I went for the 7970m's because they were the fastest GPU on the market at that time, and almost double the speed of NVidia's offering.

At the end of the day, boosting is OCing (Whether you except that or not. That is how I and many others see it.) This is why I wanted to see what the GTX 670 is like at its base clock of 915MHz, which you showed me. Thank you.

So by going by the base clocks of mine and yours, we can see that the 7970M's are very fast for a mobile GPU. (I am not dissing NVidia's desktop GPU's at all. As I have to admit, I prefer NVidia).
So as soon as you go over that base clock of 915MHz it is boosting (OCing it's self).

So this is now water under the bridge, so lets move on and keep this thread a friendly place.

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Well, we can all agree that a single 670/680, will always provide a better gaming experience than any two mobile GPUs, even at 'stock' - which, by the way I agree with Dizzi on, and should include the boost, since its ships on all cards by default. If you read Techreports in depth article, you'll see that in BF3 (arguably the ultimate real world test of a GPU) "the chip spent most of its time at about 1.1GHz—above both the base and boost levels."

No 50ms+ frame renders (common complaint with any SLI/X-Fire setup), less noise, and far better bang for buck.

You don't buy a gaming laptop to get the fastest speeds (never going to happen), and as a value proposition, its pretty terrible too, but, the 7970m are nevertheless impressive....... for a laptop GPU.

No doubt when TG decides he wants to play with the big boys again, he'll be back to 4GB 680's!
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You're taking this to heart, when all I'm doing is seeing where the 7970m's fit in with the desktop GPU's.

You're now quoting me to be a fanboy of AMD? I only buy what ever is faster at the time of making my purchase, so obviously I went for the 7970m's because they were the fastest GPU on the market at that time, and almost double the speed of NVidia's offering.

At the end of the day, boosting is OCing (Whether you except that or not. That is how I and many others see it.) This is why I wanted to see what the GTX 670 is like at its base clock of 915MHz, which you showed me. Thank you.

So by going by the base clocks of mine and yours, we can see that the 7970M's are very fast for a mobile GPU. (I am not dissing NVidia's desktop GPU's at all. As I have to admit, I prefer NVidia).
So as soon as you go over that base clock of 915MHz it is boosting (OCing it's self).

So this is now water under the bridge, so lets move on and keep this thread a friendly place.
Not to heart but I do take issue with what your saying as I own 670s and what you are saying is inaccurate.

Whether you accept it or not. GPU boost is a feature designed and implemented by the card manufacturer to increase card performance in relation to the TDP etc. It is not overclocking, as in, something that used to void a warranty not so long ago. I and many others see it that way.

I posted the 915 run, underclocking my offset by 250Mhz, because you asked me and I consider you a friend on this board, not so you can have a stick to beat 670 owners with.

I'm happy to move on, water has flowed any time you like, if you stop with this line that GTX670 or 680s by default run at their base clocks. Because they do not.

Carry on with the thread by all means

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You've slightly gone off the rails - where am I beating 670 owners with a stick...

670/680's come with as you say a boost feature, which in it own class is self OCing. (Call it what you will, but it's still OCing. No different to Intel's turbo feature which also gives it an advantage).

So back to the point - you showed me what the 670's have done at its base clock. And you have clearly expressed yourself after doing it, prior to you flaunting your ego when cranking up the clocks, when all I wanted was to see a fair comparison...

So now it is time for others to read through and judge for them selfs, and so we should leave it as that.

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I'm glad we came to a mutual agreement.

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Installing the 3920XM in to my Lappy.

Where to start...


Remove the keyboard.


Flip it back over and start undoing all the screws...


Removing the Screen.


Removal of the palm rest. Which was a pain in the bum, trying not to break the plastic clips. But with a bit of time and patients, no harm was caused.


Oh look! That will be the 3920XM...


Came specially delivered from OCUK this morning! Thanks Andy. Top service as always!


Taking the 7970M out to remove the heatsink and add some MX2 to it instead.


Heatsink removed!


Doing the same to the other 7970.


Now putting it all back together. Believe it or not, this was the most hardest bit of putting it back together. The stupid cable to the keyboard was so fiddly, it took me 30mins to get the bloody thing in. But we got there in the end.


And to finish off, heres a Bios screen shot.


Oh just one more thing, and I know this will piss off a few peeps.

CPU OC'ed to 4.2GHz on all cores.(Now need to get the Dual copper heatsink for the CPU, to clock it further.)
Muahahaha!



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