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Old 6th Sep 2012, 10:27   #1
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The Path of Progress: Tracking the evolution of AMD’s graphics cards

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Why does this feel like advertising 0.o

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To clarify, it seems to have sidestepped some of the "less-than-stellar" products such as the HD2900 and HD38xx series and doesn't seem to explicitly mention that the HD48xx series is where they started to turn around and provide better value-for-money.
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We're going to be doing a series of features of this ilk in the months ahead if all goes to plan.
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Why does this feel like advertising 0.o

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To clarify, it seems to have sidestepped some of the "less-than-stellar" products such as the HD2900 and HD38xx series and doesn't seem to explicitly mention that the HD48xx series is where they started to turn around and provide better value-for-money.
The first AMD (non-ATI branded card) where the HD6000 series, that's probably why it starts with the HD5000 series.
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I'd be interested to see their path of progress on how they decide to release their drivers/what theyve done to improve themselves in that area. Ive always found their hardware to be excellent, but software (drivers) to be abysmal, especially notebook drivers. I recall paying £35 for Brink on release day, only for it to be completely unplayable on AMD graphics cards until months and months later, by which point noone was playing it anymore.

Good article though, an interesting read!
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This is definitely advertising.

I'm choking on all the superlatives and lack of any criticism. This article doesn't feel like it was written by bit tech at all, unless you have some new hyped up PR guy as your new writer?
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Here are some of my most hated sentences from this ridiculous article (by the way, topic is great, way it has been approached is not). Feel free to add yours below:

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Today, CrossfireX on the Radeon HD 7000-series sees anything up to double the average frame rate in certain games versus a single card.
- yeah awesome! Except both BT and CPC both recommend NOT doing either SLI of CFX and have done for years

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AMD pushed graphics fidelity to the next level in 2007,
- what does that even mean?

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The Radeon HD 5970 was the fastest graphics card ever released at the time, which made it the ideal card to show off EyeFinity’s potential.
- it was also hot and loud, and Eyefinity was an absolute dog to get set up outside of just using it for windows.

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Now, with a compatible 3D monitor, 6000-series card owners could watch 3D video and play games in stereoscopic 3D
- Yeah they could, all 4 of the games that AMD supports, in badly optimised 3D.

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Which brings us to today – 2012 sees AMD's latest 7000-series takes everything we’ve seen before and kicked it into overdrive.
- Starting to look around for vomit bucket

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it’s a new evolution for AMD graphics cards that not only focuses on gaming performance, but also the highly useful mouthful that is general-purpose computing on graphics processing units (GPGPU
- Good, something useful and actually relevant, but why does it have to be a 'new evolution' - can't we go back to talking like normal people and not a narrator from a Michael Bay film

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Whether you have one monitor or several, plan to play in 2D or 3D or want to build a system with multiple graphics cards, the Radeon HD 7000-series has you covered.
- grabs PR vomit bucket and begins to retch.

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With support for PCI Express 3.0, 4K video and DirectX 11.1, they are ready for the next generation before it even arrives.
Vomits PR flavoured bile into PR vomit bucket.

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It’s ready to take your rig’s graphics performance to new levels
- PR Vomit so strong it burns through bottom of PR vomit bucket.
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Blimey, thats a pretty good point. I think pointing out things such as there shortcomings, and ways they've came back against nvidia would have been less biased.

now that ive just read parges quotes, it does reek of advertising :/
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8 years? Who has hidden 2 years from me, im still in 2012?!
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Lovely idea, disgusting execution.

Seriously, how much did AMD pay for this puff piece?
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Apologies: this is a sponsored feature, but the tag thing I tried to flag it as such has disappeared. I'll add a line of text to the bottom.
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Updated now. Apologies for the confusion.

We are looking to do more features charting the path of progress of companies and their technologies in the future. All comments, as always, taken on board.
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Where are the details? You know, the block diagrams showing how they've changed over the generations. How the cores are grouped. How data moves around the chip. How the caching strategy has developed. .......

This article should be at least 5 times as long.
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Might be a nice article, but sorry chaps, I don't read adverts as a rule. I hope it makes you some good ca$h though so you can to lots of tasty non-sponsored features in the near future as well.
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^^ what he said, pretty irritated by this now, especially considering youve just read 2 pages of biased material before you hit the tiny footnote that its sponsoered. Theres no mention of it being sponsored on the first page (which is what most people who wont make it to the second page of the article will read). a bit misleading?

I hope theres going to be no "sponsored" hardware reviews anytime soon.
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Will add the sponsored tag to the top, no problem there. Not trying to mislead people at all.

I don't think anyone could ever call our reviews sponsored, either (they're not, of course). Especially if we could show you everything from this side of the fence!
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I appreciate that these things have to be done from time to time (most if not all issues of CPC in recent memory have at least one advertisement feature), and I certainly don't think bigc90210 was suggesting you use bias in reviews. It's just that this is the first time we've seen such a feature on the front page of Bit, so an image banner and something in the title/subtitle of the feature would be most appreciated.
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I've put it at the top and end of the article now. My error, there. Apologies.
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I second @zinfandels comment.

If I wanted to read the upsides of AMD with absolutely zero criticism I would go to amd.com. This reeks of desperation bit-tech, whatever happened to the advertising staying well away from editorial? Doesn't the direct mingling of the two compromise your integrity when reviewing future AMD products?
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