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Old 26th Sep 2012, 10:30   #1
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Intel's Otellini says Windows 8 is 'not ready'

Tells staff that Microsoft's still doing the right thing, though.
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I'm on record already, as hating the UI, although I am wondering if this will be another ME or Vista cock-up; and we'll see it's replacement in short order.
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Just because Intel can make good chips does not mean it is suddenly an expert on human-computer interfaces. It will be a huge success. Next year this will be a non-issue.
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are you using it, or have you used it for more than a week? it really isn't a bad os, it's quicker than 7, everything that works on 7 works on 8, so far as I can tell, there may be a few bugs, but no more than you would expect from a new os.

i'm using the rtm version, as my main os now on both my machines, on my desktop I do have an issue with my soundcard, but that's a creative problem not a Microsoft one, I have an original x-fi fatality, sound goes off, go into the driver swap modes and back again it works again.(this may be related to remote desktop, but not sure)
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are you using it
God no, I use Linux otherwise I'd never get anything done.
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or have you used it for more than a week?
Yes, I've given it a pretty thorough going-over - it is my job, after all - but remember this article isn't about what *I* think, it's about what Paul Otellini (reportedly) thinks.
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I tried it for a couple of weeks on my spare machine, which might sound like it wouldn't help matters; given the fact that I'd spend just as much time on my main rig, running 7.

I can't really moan about the performance, but the UI was hateful. It never occurred to me that you can disable it at the time, but that thought leads me to my next question- "why would I buy something that I'd have to hobble to use it happily?"

Which is why I have never gotten round to reinstalling it.
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90% of my time is spent on the desktop, only when searching or using a specific (we'll call it a metro app for now) app do I use the start screen
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I've tested Windows 8 RTM Build 9200 64 bit on my former rig (i5 760, 8GB, GTX460) for a few days now.

It runs well, but the whole GUI is not really what people would like to use on a desktop. It's terrible to configure imho and not very user-friendly on a desktop where you're using a keyboard and mouse.
The missing start-menu, when you use the desktop instead of the metro-ui, is a really bad design-decision for desktop-users.

The explorer and the menus (ribbon-style) are changed and not as good as in Win7.

All in all Windows 8 is designed with touchscreens in mind and feels awkward to use for desktops, with it's changed menus and GUI.
Shutting down your PC now requires you to hit Alt+F4 due to the missing start-menu for example
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Seems Windows8 is going to be the next windows 95ME and Vista 'in between' version. So probably going to skip until at least sp1 or windows 9.
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I've tested Windows 8 RTM Build 9200 64 bit on my former rig (i5 760, 8GB, GTX460) for a few days now.

It runs well, but the whole GUI is not really what people would like to use on a desktop. It's terrible to configure imho and not very user-friendly on a desktop where you're using a keyboard and mouse.
The missing start-menu, when you use the desktop instead of the metro-ui, is a really bad design-decision for desktop-users.

The explorer and the menus (ribbon-style) are changed and not as good as in Win7.

All in all Windows 8 is designed with touchscreens in mind and feels awkward to use for desktops, with it's changed menus and GUI.
Shutting down your PC now requires you to hit Alt+F4 due to the missing start-menu for example
I also hated the UI.

From what I can remember from the preview, shutting down meant logging out and then selecting shut down from the log in screen.
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That's only working in the Metro-UI. When you use the desktop-view, it's not.
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That's only working in the Metro-UI. When you use the desktop-view, it's not.
Works on the desktop too. All charm bars are always active unless gaming.



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Right this minute, an ancient (pre-Unity) version of Ubuntu. A lot of the software I test only officially works on Ubuntu, so it's that or a spin-off like Mint.
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People really need to stop believing in these articles. They're all by people who are going to lose business when Win 8 gets going. The steam guy was complaining (windows store vs steam) and now this guy (intel vs arm).
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Works on the desktop too. All charm bars are always active unless gaming.
Seems you've not disabled the Metro-UI, maybe that's why it works for you.

I wan't my classic windows-desktop with the classic taskbar and the start-menu. I don't want any widgets, icons or shortcuts on my desktop.
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The steam guy was complaining (windows store vs steam) .
This is mainly because of the rules set out for metro app's, that (because of it's sandboxed nature) Apps can not launch external programs (((ie a steam "windows metro" app could never launch games) nor could it interface with it's running service......) or any other VOIP service while running.......)

I can see why it is like that as it makes it very secure, but it means that metro apps can only really be info readers (as most are ATM), without someone doing a large amount of work for very little gain, because you just can't call an EXE file
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