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Gareth Halfacree · 2nd Oct 2012, 10:34

Some seriously good value there, at first glance.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...nity-pricing/1

Dave Lister · 2nd Oct 2012, 10:40

I read earlier today that DDR4 specs have been set in stone as it were. Will this chip support DDR4 or will a new socket and chip be required ?

Griffter · 2nd Oct 2012, 11:00

good question +1?

Gareth Halfacree · 2nd Oct 2012, 12:03

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Originally Posted by Dave Lister

I read earlier today that DDR4 specs have been set in stone as it were. Will this chip support DDR4 or will a new socket and chip be required ?

As far as I'm aware, DDR4 support won't be appearing until Excavator-based chips launch in 2014 - and they'll most likely need a new motherboard.

That's not set in stone, though - I'll drop AMD a line to see if they've got an official statement to make on the matter.

runadumb · 2nd Oct 2012, 12:29

I want to see the 5800K benchmarked using Dolphin and PCSX 2. Could you get away with no discrete GPU I wonder? Is the CPU up to the challenge (considering my overclocked I7 920 chokes on such things at times).

I think I will have to go to more "specialist" sites for that information though

Also like the DDR4 question.

Dave Lister · 2nd Oct 2012, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lister

I read earlier today that DDR4 specs have been set in stone as it were. Will this chip support DDR4 or will a new socket and chip be required ?

As far as I'm aware, DDR4 support won't be appearing until Excavator-based chips launch in 2014 - and they'll most likely need a new motherboard.

That's not set in stone, though - I'll drop AMD a line to see if they've got an official statement to make on the matter.

Thanks man, it's always handy info to have for planning ahead.

tonyd223 · 2nd Oct 2012, 13:40

No one uses World of Tanks for a benchmark...

MrJay · 2nd Oct 2012, 13:45

Nice pricing!

Ill be getting at A10-5700 when the launch some ITX boards.

GuilleAcoustic · 2nd Oct 2012, 14:05

looks good to me. Waiting for ITX board too.

Action_Parsnip · 2nd Oct 2012, 14:18

If you want to play games without having a dscreet gpu, Trinity really is the only option.

azazel1024 · 2nd Oct 2012, 14:34

Yes, it will require a new motherboard for DDR4. DDR4 is not backward compatible with DDR3.

GuilleAcoustic · 2nd Oct 2012, 14:37

DDR4 will be nice for IGP memory bandwidth

Gareth Halfacree · 2nd Oct 2012, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by azazel1024

Yes, it will require a new motherboard for DDR4. DDR4 is not backward compatible with DDR3.

The question being asked is whether the *chips* will suppport DDR4: i.e. if I buy an A10-5800K and a DDR3 FM2 motherboard today, when DDR4 RAM is released into the market can I upgrade just by buying a new DDR4-compatible FM2 motherboard and some sticks of DDR4, or will I need to throw out my A10-5800K as well?

GuilleAcoustic · 2nd Oct 2012, 14:54

Since the DDR3 controller is embedded inside the APU die, I think it's a NO

Gareth Halfacree · 2nd Oct 2012, 14:56

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Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic

Since the DDR3 controller is embedded inside the APU die, I think it's a NO

That was my guess, too - but I want to hear it from the horse's mouth before I become the first person on t'internet to say so.

GuilleAcoustic · 2nd Oct 2012, 14:58

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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree

That was my guess, too - but I want to hear it from the horse's mouth before I become the first person on t'internet to say so.

.... out of topic : "Nice Amiga Avatar

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Dave Lister · 2nd Oct 2012, 15:05

Oh well it sounds like it might be 2-3 generations away, it'd still make up a nice little mini itx system provided someone brings out some good fm2 boards.

GuilleAcoustic · 2nd Oct 2012, 15:12

This MSI A85IA-E53 looks nice to me

Dave Lister · 2nd Oct 2012, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic

This MSI A85IA-E53 looks nice to me

It does indeed, provided the specs look as good.. I like what the did with the USB header at the top !

Action_Parsnip · 2nd Oct 2012, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree

The question being asked is whether the *chips* will suppport DDR4: i.e. if I buy an A10-5800K and a DDR3 FM2 motherboard today, when DDR4 RAM is released into the market can I upgrade just by buying a new DDR4-compatible FM2 motherboard and some sticks of DDR4, or will I need to throw out my A10-5800K as well?

The DDR4 specs have only *just* been finalised. So that's not even enough lead time for Kaveri.

DDR4 will be for Bulldozer V.4 at the earliest.

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2nd Oct 2012, 11:00	#3
Griffter Supermodder Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 307	good question +1?

2nd Oct 2012, 12:29	#5
runadumb Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 298	I want to see the 5800K benchmarked using Dolphin and PCSX 2. Could you get away with no discrete GPU I wonder? Is the CPU up to the challenge (considering my overclocked I7 920 chokes on such things at times). I think I will have to go to more "specialist" sites for that information though Also like the DDR4 question.

2nd Oct 2012, 13:40	#7
tonyd223 king of nothing Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hull Posts: 273	No one uses World of Tanks for a benchmark...

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MrJay You are always where you want to be Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 517	Nice pricing! Ill be getting at A10-5700 when the launch some ITX boards.

2nd Oct 2012, 14:05	#9
GuilleAcoustic Ook ? Ook ! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: France Posts: 2,092	looks good to me. Waiting for ITX board too.

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GuilleAcoustic Ook ? Ook ! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: France Posts: 2,092	DDR4 will be nice for IGP memory bandwidth

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GuilleAcoustic Ook ? Ook ! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: France Posts: 2,092	Since the DDR3 controller is embedded inside the APU die, I think it's a NO

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