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Old 4th Jan 2013, 09:48   #1
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Cooler Master Seidon 120M Review

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/coo...-120m-review/1

Matt takes a look at Cooler Master's Seidon 120M, an affordable liquid cooler built in-house by Cooler Master. Can it keep up with similarly price air coolers?
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 13:20   #2
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Uhm. You are kidding me...

Aluminium Rad + Copper Base = NO WAI!

If you like your Hardware do not buy! How can you even recommend it and give it 75%+?

This is not a cooler! This is a 2,18V Battery!

http://www.techcluster.net/uploads/i...v3_schnitt.jpg

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Maybe just aluminium fins? I can't imagine CM not being aware of galvanic corrosion :/
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Uhm. You are kidding me...

Aluminium Rad + Copper Base = NO WAI!

If you like your Hardware do not buy! How can you even recommend it and give it 75%+?

This is not a cooler! This is a 2,18V Battery!
You never heard of inhibitors, fella?

It's a safe bet that Coolermaster didn't fill the thing with tap water!
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Don't get me wrong, I have not looked into this, however most of the photos that you have linked do not even look like this cooler
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He's on about galvanic corrosion in general. However, I've yet to hear reports of closed loop manufacturers failing to take it into consideration.
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They probably take it into consideration, but It would be nice to hear from them that they are aware of this potential problem and that they took adequate steps to prevent/ minimize it, like inhibitor additive, passivation, etc.... just for customers peace of mind.
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You never heard of inhibitors, fella?

It's a safe bet that Coolermaster didn't fill the thing with tap water!
Yeah, it goes without saying really. It's a good bet almost all of these AIO units use aluminum rads, considering a standalone 120mm copper/brass radiator is around 25 on it's own.

Anywho, I have to disagree with the last point in this review:

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the Seidon 120M would make a good entry point to water-cooling for users of such systems on a budget.
It's not really an entry point to watercooling as you don't actually have to do anything outside of what you do with standard air cooling. You mount a cooler to a CPU and a fan to a case, there's no filling, bleeding, cutting hose to length and securing fittings or leak testing... none of the things you need to to take care over when building a properly watercooled PC.

It's like saying buying an oven is an entry point to learning how to cook restaurant quality food.
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It's like saying buying an oven is an entry point to learning how to cook restaurant quality food.
I would say it's closer to "buying an oven is an entry point to learning how to cook".
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However, we were frustrated to find that the radiator's top and bottom tanks mean that even though it has 120mm mounting holes, it is actually larger vertically than a standard 120mm case fan.
Did I miss something here, or was this review written as though 120mm radiators never existed prior to the Seidon 120M?
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Did I miss something here, or was this review written as though 120mm radiators never existed prior to the Seidon 120M?
Good point, it doesn't look any bigger than the rad on the H50.
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Good point, it doesn't look any bigger than the rad on the H50.
Or any other 120mm rad that I've ever seen before.

Maybe I've been hiding under a rock, but since when were radiators designed to fit 'into' the mounting space of a fan, bit-tech?
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Good point, it doesn't look any bigger than the rad on the H50.
Or any other 120mm rad that I've ever seen before.

Maybe I've been hiding under a rock, but since when were radiators designed to fit 'into' the mounting space of a fan, bit-tech?
Sorry, could've been clearer on that I guess. Point was that as it's a single fan cooler, some cases (e.g. ours) might not be able to fit the rad directly against the rear of the case - we had the same issue with the Intel Thermal Solution water cooler too. It was more just to point this out rather than say anything against the cooler itself, since like you said any other rad would have the same issue.
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Sorry, could've been clearer on that I guess. Point was that as it's a single fan cooler, some cases (e.g. ours) might not be able to fit the rad directly against the rear of the case - we had the same issue with the Intel Thermal Solution water cooler too. It was more just to point this out rather than say anything against the cooler itself, since like you said any other rad would have the same issue.
That makes more sense, thanks for clarifying!
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