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Old 7th Jan 2013, 12:29   #1
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USB 3.0 to get 10Gb/s transfer rate

Matches Thunderbolt bitrate-for-bitrate.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...7/usb3-10gig/1
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 12:34   #2
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I hope they call it 3.1 rather than sticking with 3.0 and making us read the small print constantly and explain to friends and relatives why their new drive/PC isn't as quick as they were expecting...
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 12:41   #3
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Erm..... well given the time it will take 3.1 to actually appear on host devices (MBs) and consumer devices, I think its a mute point.
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 12:46   #4
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Take that stupid proprietary standards.
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Isn't 5Gbps fast enough?

I mean.. that theoretically an entire 1Tb disk in under three and a half minutes...
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Gigabits != GigaBytes.

1 Gigabit = 128 MegaBytes.

Meaning 10 Gb/s = 1.280 MB/s

Assuming you meant a 1TByte disk, that means copying everything over, theoretically, if you're always at peak speed, will take 13 minutes 40 seconds. Also assuming the data actually occupies 1TB.
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Maybe Apple have learnt from there mistakes with Firewire and Thunderbolt will be a success, But personally i will be steering clear of TB due to its association with Apple and there past history with propriety hardware.
So its good to hear of a faster USB even though i only use it for simple things like keyboard/mouse
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 14:44   #9
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Should be called USB4, just keep things simple.

Other than that, good news!
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 15:20   #10
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Maybe Apple have learnt from there mistakes with Firewire and Thunderbolt will be a success, But personally i will be steering clear of TB due to its association with Apple and there past history with propriety hardware.
So its good to hear of a faster USB even though i only use it for simple things like keyboard/mouse
Technically thunderbolt isn't apple, intel were the inventors or whatever you want to call it, apple just heavily invested in its development. It has appeared on some motherboards recently.

People don't use thunderbolt because it far too expensive, and standard hdds cant reach the speeds anyway.
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@fdbh96, yes but Intel signed a exclusive deal with Apple for one year (coming to a close soon)

Apple has always tried to get as much mark up as possible from hardware, a 2M TB cable costing 30, a 2TB HDD costing 290 and the equivalent USB 2TB 90.
By closing TB off for a year (maybe more) it enabled USB3 to get a foot hold in the market and in the end its about what connection your device comes with and whats cheapest.
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@fdbh96, yes but Intel signed a exclusive deal with Apple for one year (coming to a close soon)
The exclusivity deal is already over: you can pick up Thunderbolt-equipped motherboards right now, if you're willing to part with the cash.
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 17:17   #13
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What's the new 100w USB 3.0 standard going to be called? Are we going to have two different USB 3.0 standards: 100w 5Gb/s USB 3.0 and 900mA 10Gb/s USB 3.0?

I wish they would get their act together!
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Old 7th Jan 2013, 18:33   #14
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Good for USB, but Thunderbolt is still faster. Not only is Thunderbolt 10Gb/s but it's also bi-directional, which means 10Gb/s in BOTH directions.
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This is a bit strange. Surely Intel has a massive investment in USB3 too? I wonder if this is anything to do with simplifying everything. Intel published an idea for a common PHY (PDF warning) which means that you might as well have all the interfaces running at the same signalling rate.

I wish USB would disappear though; it's such a hassle to develop for compared to Firewire and Thunderbolt/PCIe.
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Good for USB, but Thunderbolt is still faster. Not only is Thunderbolt 10Gb/s but it's also bi-directional, which means 10Gb/s in BOTH directions.
Isn't USB 3 full duplex now?
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Keep in mind it NEVER NEVER NEVER will reach true 10Gb/s, is always less, probably around 7Gb/s. It should be called USB 4.0. Or go directly to true USB 4.0 instead. Thunderbolt will be expensive until 2015~2016, plus we don't ever see much devices using that any time soon.
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I'll take the power consumtion improvments, but for a port that I'm just as likely to plug a keyboard into.... who cares?
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Gigabits != GigaBytes.

1 Gigabit = 128 MegaBytes.

Meaning 10 Gb/s = 1.280 MB/s
I assume you meant 10Gb/s = 1.280 GB/s
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Am I right in thinking this 'superspeed' name is what will denote that it's 10Gb/s?
If so, products like this are already muddying the waters by being advertised as 'superspeed usb 3.0':
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-s...b-30-20-pc-mac
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