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Old 28th Jan 2013, 11:04   #1
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Google hit by privacy suit from UK Safari users

Privacy breach means damages, says Olswang.
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 11:06   #2
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 11:11   #3
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 11:22   #4
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Google have been doing this for a while on different browsers. And on phones, they were under investigation by the FCC for breach of most of the above.

The 2 biggest players in the mobile phone sector have repeadly said they would block googles access to the web browsers if they did not clean up there act on the above.

Google is loosing its we are not evil image and stuff like the above is doing alot of damage.
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 11:43   #5
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I think 10 people is statistically insignificant to be entirely honest..

If it was thousands, then they'd have a case which I'd more than likely support.
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why nonsense? if u dont want spam, then a company must not write code to supersede ur rights and wants.

u could even boil it down to google being just another trojan horse piece of program to open u up to spam.. u hate hackers that try to insert trojans.. why is google any different now?
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 12:03   #7
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because most andriod fans see google as the saint of the world and apple the evil of the world.

you can guarentee if it was apple accused of the above there would be an outcry.

as i mensioned above though, Samsung already told google to not do this on there product range. ( And samsung is andriods biggest supporter towards its main goal of advertising.)

Google really is just a big advertisement company they have built a wall around there ads which is called Andriod and are giving it away for free to get more advertisement.

Microsoft did a similar thing with windows back in the day.

Main differences are people can choose to block google you had little to no choice in operatiing system.

If the 2 main phone sellers decide to block google ( which they have said they would do if they found voilations themselves that google may of placed) then they would be removed from a 400million unit sales market and virtually all the people buying those 2 products actually go online.

Google will really have to be careful to not push Samsung away as i dont think samsung needs google as much as people think anymore.
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 12:15   #8
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"Google is loosing its we are not evil image and stuff like the above is doing alot of damage."

They've always been evil in my eyes. The whole company is the biggest Malware on the planet.

"Yeah but it's free!" is no longer a defence.
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 12:21   #9
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I thought do not track was optional?
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 12:51   #10
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I think the lawsuit is because they selected 'do not track', and were tracked.
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lol

next time u search check to see what comes up also, i myself work for a gambling company, and search alot for online gambling stuff at work from my logged in gmail google account. get home, my searches forever try to finish my searches for gambloing **** and gambling popups which never came at the rate it does now.

if they saving ur search prefs, then u been hacked already for spam and ads.
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 13:05   #12
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"Safari Users Against Google's Secret Tracking" sounds to me more like somebody's got a personal axe to grind and their just trying to get as many other people to jump on the bandwagon as possible.
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 13:06   #13
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Seems strange that google would "accidentally" target just safari with all those chrome users in their pocket?
Top five browsers last year.

Google Chrome (39.3 %)
Mozilla Firefox (35.2 %)
Internet Explorer (18.1%)
Safari (4.3 %)
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 13:31   #14
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My bet is that it came from an iOS device where its hard to get another browser on the system.
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Firefox has the "no track" option in the settings aswell, but it doesn't help here either.

As far as I know, no browser prevents google from tracking you and you don't even need to be logged in to gmail or ytube constantly.

Face it. Google is just as evil of a company as every other. They'll do everything possible to increase their profits, and tracking everyone is part of it.
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You can easily install chrome or Mozilla both have iOS versions.
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I'm getting really tired of this crap - not Google doing their tacking thing but people complaining about it. First of all, nobody is forcing you to use google. If you don't want an "evil" monopolizing company, then it's your own damn fault for using them all the time.

Secondly, WHY DOES IT MATTER? As long as you're not looking up anything illegal, who cares if google has info on your searches? What do you expect to happen, their janitor sneaks into the server room and says "teehee, this guy is looking at porn!"? Google's employees are probably not legally allowed to view ANYTHING related to your account that isn't already public.

And lastly, why is it that every corporation worth more than $1 billion is automatically evil because they want to make money? What makes them qualify as not evil? Google isn't actively trying to snuff out the competition (such as yahoo or apple). Haven't you heard of them trying to combine patents with other companies? While they may be beating their competition, I'd say that's because of things like offering more desireable products and freedom of choice. How is that evil? It's not like Microsoft, who got their success by trying to eliminate anyone who had a better alternative. MS didn't get their success by making more desireable products, they fought dirty. Apple seems to have learned from their mistakes and no longer has a weakness to MS and now to me it seems like they're taking their revenge.
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I'm getting really tired of this crap - not Google doing their tacking thing but people complaining about it. First of all, nobody is forcing you to use google. If you don't want an "evil" monopolizing company, then it's your own damn fault for using them all the time.
You may want to re-read the article: it was DoubleClick, an advertising company wholly owned by Google, that was doing the tracking. DoubleClick is used on a massive number of websites, none of which have any relationship with Google beyond using DoubleClick to generate advertising revenue. In fact, if you'd care to take a look at the page source on this very site, you'll see numerous DoubleClick domains - it's one of the advertising companies used by Dennis Publishing across their various websites.

So, nobody is forcing anybody to use Google, true - but if you don't want to use DoubleClick, or any of Google's other advertising subsidiaries, you're going to find your little corner of the web is a dark and lonely place.
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I'm getting really tired of this crap - not Google doing their tacking thing but people complaining about it. First of all, nobody is forcing you to use google. If you don't want an "evil" monopolizing company, then it's your own damn fault for using them all the time.
You may want to re-read the article: it was DoubleClick, an advertising company wholly owned by Google, that was doing the tracking. DoubleClick is used on a massive number of websites, none of which have any relationship with Google beyond using DoubleClick to generate advertising revenue. In fact, if you'd care to take a look at the page source on this very site, you'll see numerous DoubleClick domains - it's one of the advertising companies used by Dennis Publishing across their various websites.

So, nobody is forcing anybody to use Google, true - but if you don't want to use DoubleClick, or any of Google's other advertising subsidiaries, you're going to find your little corner of the web is a dark and lonely place.
hear hear Gareth!

also, i have a buddy also with the "so what if google tracks u". thats like watching the Death Star getting destroyed and saying: "oh what about the poor ppl inside it"... you missing the point then.
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hear hear Gareth!

also, i have a buddy also with the "so what if google tracks u". thats like watching the Death Star getting destroyed and saying: "oh what about the poor ppl inside it"... you missing the point then.
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Ah I see what you mean now. That is a bit annoying but I thought stuff like DoubleClick only worked when you clicked on Ads or typed in searches. Feel free to correct me.

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When you look at it in the perspective you said, then ya it seems completely stupid. Especially consiering that half the people inside are clones. Personally I don't see the relevance of your analogy. What I'm saying is "be a decent person and you shouldn't be afraid of what people know about you (assuming they have access to that information)". What you're saying is more like "do something beneficial to everyone even if it means some innocent people may be at a loss".
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