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Old 25th Sep 2015, 15:07   #1
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Fantasist loners.

So, another "cold and detached teenager" full of his own self importance was planning to reap his revenge on his college staff and pupils with an arsenal of weapons and explosives.

The judge sentenced him to life, saying:

"Your emotional coldness and detachment and your lack of empathy to others was self-evident."


Here are some of the things the Police recovered from his computer. The secret diary of Liam Lyburd, aged 19 1/2:

"You people ruined my whole life, don't expect me to show mercy today. No-one disrespects me and gets away with it."

"I'll teach you people a little lesson on respect with my 9mm jacketed hollow points."

"It's time for extreme civil disobedience."

"Fantasy will become reality today for sure. Where the mind goes the body will follow and, yes, people will die, there's no question about that."



What a plonker. What on Earth sends a young lad mental like that?

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What on Earth sends a young lad mental like that?
Hormones, upbringing, bullying?
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He has a bad brain I reckon. It's not that he was driven to it, he was probably F'ed up from the start.

It seems life actually means a minimum of 8 years. Prisons are apparently based on the idea that someone is punished for breaking the law and they can be reformed. But psychopaths have a hard time associating the punishment with their actions and so carry on as usual when released. Or something like that anyway, I'm sure Nexxo can correct me on this.
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I don't know. I reckon a bad experience + too much much pot + too much Alex Jones type websites (not AJ from the One Show ) - ("minus") contact with "the real world" can do it too. I've met a few borderline nutjobs over the years and many follow that pattern.

Instead of facing up to their challenges, they retreat into a world of utter nonsense.
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Ah well, at least all of that mass surveillance by the UK state managed to thwart a plot by some guy who was openly communicating about it with others on the internet. Oh, wait....
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Ah well, at least all of that mass surveillance by the UK state managed to thwart a plot by some guy who was openly communicating about it with others on the internet. Oh, wait....
Yea, I've always said the concerns about snooping were unjustified.
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What a plonker. What on Earth sends a young lad mental like that?
Ask a psychologist. Only nobody does, because they never want to hear the answer.
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Ok.

Hey Nexxo? What on earth sends a young lad mental like that?
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I don't know. I reckon a bad experience + too much much pot + too much Alex Jones type websites (not AJ from the One Show ) - ("minus") contact with "the real world" can do it too. I've met a few borderline nutjobs over the years and many follow that pattern.

Instead of facing up to their challenges, they retreat into a world of utter nonsense.
Too much pot? If there's too much pot consumed you're usually pretty inactive and not that agressive. Too much alcohol would make more sense.

Anyways. We would need much more information about his background to even dare making an edjucated guess why he ran rampant.
How did he grow up exactly, did he experience abuse, did he do alot of drugs, etc, etc, etc.

You don't turn into a psycho just because you're a loner that got kicked out of school, atleast if you're a somewhat sane person.
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Too much pot? If there's too much pot consumed you're usually pretty inactive and not that agressive. Too much alcohol would make more sense.

Anyways. We would need much more information about his background to even dare making an edjucated guess why he ran rampant.
How did he grow up exactly, did he experience abuse, did he do alot of drugs, etc, etc, etc.

You don't turn into a psycho just because you're a loner that got kicked out of school, atleast if you're a somewhat sane person.
I don't mean that he smoked a spliff and turned violent. You're right, alcohol is king for that kind of thing. What I mean is, some heavy pot smokers seem far more susceptible to succumb to paranoia and can become suspicious and generally untrusting. This has a huge detremental knock-on effect on their day-to-day lives and the way they view the world.
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Generally speaking you can get this sort of narcissistic rage with an absent father and over-indulgent but disengaged mother. He is very bright, so may feel disconnected from and hence rejected by his peers, and be prone to ruminative introspection. Without the sounding board of a mature and engaged parent/attachment figure, that can go all sorts of wrong. Consequent emotional immaturity and poor social skills won't have helped.

Basically a lonely, angry kid. Sad, really (in the tragic, not pathetic sense).
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That's Ok. I'll fill in the gaps.

It's because of computer games like Grand theft auto V and Call of Duty. Plain and simple.
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That's Ok. I'll fill in the gaps.

It's because of computer games like Grand theft auto V and Call of Duty. Plain and simple.
I wonder if he read "The Catcher In The Rye"?
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Why not go the whole hog and suggest that he also watched horror films, listened to heavy metal and played D&D.

Have I missed any of the "bad influences" out?

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Why not go the whole hog and suggest that he also watched horror films, listened to heavy metal and played D&D.

Have I missed any of the "bad influences" out?

The "evil government"? Society? His upbringing?
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Generally speaking you can get this sort of narcissistic rage with an absent father and over-indulgent but disengaged mother. He is very bright, so may feel disconnected from and hence rejected by his peers, and be prone to ruminative introspection. Without the sounding board of a mature and engaged parent/attachment figure, that can go all sorts of wrong. Consequent emotional immaturity and poor social skills won't have helped.

Basically a lonely, angry kid. Sad, really (in the tragic, not pathetic sense).
Is there not more than this? Surely he isn't the only person in the world who may have lacked proper guidance growing up. Yet most people don't have a number of pipe bombs under the bed.
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Have I missed any of the "bad influences" out?

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