bit-tech.net

Go Back   bit-tech.net Forums > bit-tech.net > Article Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 3rd May 2013, 10:17   #1
Gareth Halfacree
WIIGII!
bit-tech Staff
 
Gareth Halfacree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bradford, UK
Posts: 3,854
Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.
ASRock details next-gen A-Style Purity Sound tech

Two amps, no capacitors, top quality, claims company.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...purity-sound/1
__________________
Author, Raspberry Pi User Guide, Meet the Raspberry Pi | gareth.halfacree.co.uk | twitter
bit-tech news correspondent, Custom PC columnist, other things to other people
I'm a filthy freelancer! Hire me!
Gareth Halfacree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 11:03   #2
Stanley Tweedle
Ultramodder
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,034
Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
Pretty sure I used to build circuits with NE5532 back in the 80's. Not exactly an expensive opamp at less than 1.

My Auzentech X-Meridian 2G has better opamps.
__________________
The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.

The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.

The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.
Stanley Tweedle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 11:04   #3
mi1ez
Game Boy Modder
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,127
mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!mi1ez - it's over 9000!!!!!!!!1!1!1!!!
Surely most EMI noise will come from the motherboard side of the chip rendering the shield useless?
__________________
The Angel Delights?
mi1ez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 11:14   #4
GuilleAcoustic
Ook ? Ook !
 
GuilleAcoustic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: France
Posts: 2,889
GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.
this is pure marketing .... better buy a dedicated USB DAC with head-amp (well, it's not the same price).
__________________
Forum threads: Amiga reborn - GuilleAcoustic's audio thread

i5 4570 - Asus Z87 Gryphon + Thermal Armor - 8GB - Sandisk Extreme II 240GB - EVGA GTX770 - PC-V353A
GuilleAcoustic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 11:56   #5
flibblesan
Destroyer
 
flibblesan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 1,389
flibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpitflibblesan is almost as Godly as yodasarmpit
Hopefully bit-tech can get one of these boards and put those claims to the test?
flibblesan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 12:17   #6
monkiboi
Multimodder
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 101
monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.monkiboi is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree View Post
Dubbed A-Style Purity Sound, because that's not complete gibberish at all
Am I detecting a hint of cynicism Mr Halfacree?
__________________
C2D E8400 (@3600), Biostar I45 T-Power motherboard, 2x 2Gb 1066 OCZ Reaper, Powercolor HD5850 (stock speed with Accellero S1.2 heatsink), Coolermaster 500W PSU
monkiboi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 12:30   #7
Corky42
Mod Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,683
Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.
Seem like better on board audio is being push by a lot of manufactures of late. Gigabyte is also releasing details of there AMP-UP on board audio, with changeable op-amp and creative based hardware.

Last edited by Corky42; 3rd May 2013 at 13:10. Reason: better reading
Corky42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 12:59   #8
GuilleAcoustic
Ook ? Ook !
 
GuilleAcoustic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: France
Posts: 2,889
GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.
Sound quality is not only about DAC and I/V stage. You need a great power circuitry (L-C Pi filtering, etc.), efficient and smart grounding, etc. This will be a small improvement, but will still be far from high quality audio.
__________________
Forum threads: Amiga reborn - GuilleAcoustic's audio thread

i5 4570 - Asus Z87 Gryphon + Thermal Armor - 8GB - Sandisk Extreme II 240GB - EVGA GTX770 - PC-V353A
GuilleAcoustic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 13:56   #9
Stanley Tweedle
Ultramodder
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,034
Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Stanley Tweedle is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
"Ti NE5532 headset amplifier" << Sales bollocks. 5532 is a very bog standard low-cost op-amp.
__________________
The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.

The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.

The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.
Stanley Tweedle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 15:39   #10
Gareth Halfacree
WIIGII!
bit-tech Staff
 
Gareth Halfacree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bradford, UK
Posts: 3,854
Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by monkiboi View Post
Am I detecting a hint of cynicism Mr Halfacree?
From me? Shurely shome mishtake.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Tweedle View Post
"Ti NE5532 headset amplifier" << Sales bollocks. 5532 is a very bog standard low-cost op-amp.
I think ASRock's point is that it has a *separate* amplifier for the headphones, not that the amplifier itself is anything special. I say "I think," because it's not being terribly clear on *why* A-Style Purity Sound is better than all the rest.
__________________
Author, Raspberry Pi User Guide, Meet the Raspberry Pi | gareth.halfacree.co.uk | twitter
bit-tech news correspondent, Custom PC columnist, other things to other people
I'm a filthy freelancer! Hire me!
Gareth Halfacree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2013, 17:34   #11
Corky42
Mod Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,683
Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.Corky42 is definitely a rep cheat.
Every time i read A-Style, i cant help thinking it 's some new line in ladies fashion
Corky42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th May 2013, 07:16   #12
fluxtatic
Supermodder
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 485
fluxtatic has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Tweedle
"Ti NE5532 headset amplifier" << Sales bollocks. 5532 is a very bog standard low-cost op-amp.
Maybe, but can you even name the op-amps used in the motherboards around your house now? Sure, Burr-Browns are nice, but odds are good what most motherboards are using are some $.05 junk. (Not that I'm defending ASRock, but any step up in onboard quality is good by me, since I'm too cheap to splash out on a discrete card.)

Also, no love for Asus having hopped on (or possibly started) the better-onboard-audio bandwagon? Wasn't it a year or so ago they started bringing out some ROG boards with an isolated audio plane and a corner of the board where all the audio hardware was gathered, with a fairly sizable trace-free gap isolating it from the rest of the board?
fluxtatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th May 2013, 18:36   #13
SAimNE
Multimodder
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 107
SAimNE has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
This board seems rather pointless overall... it's never going to outdo the high end sound cards in the market, and for normal people highend mobos already had a more than decent audio feedback for movies/gaming/music/w/e. This is a device that would only matter to audiophiles and audiophiles ALREADY OWN THE SOUND CARDS.... if they make a new system with this board, they would simply transfer their already owned epic sound card to the pci slots and use that... they would never even bother with onboard when they know it wont match up.... so yeah, not sure who this is marketed at.
SAimNE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2013, 10:47   #14
[USRF]Obiwan
I *am* a Dremel
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,692
[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
Maybe they should have used the new OPA1662 amps from TI.

But I would be very impressed if they had used BurBrown amps.
__________________
Mascleta: "The most accurate simulation of thunder, humans can simulate..."
The answer is 42, so... whats the question again?
If you know what 'Peek' and 'Poke' represents, then you are probably as old as me.
In 1982 I was addicted to Lady Bug and played it in the local arcade (every day) And yes i'm proud I did that!
[USRF]Obiwan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2013, 10:51   #15
Gareth Halfacree
WIIGII!
bit-tech Staff
 
Gareth Halfacree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bradford, UK
Posts: 3,854
Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by '[USRF
But I would be very impressed if they had used BurBrown amps.
I'm buying the first motherboard to use thermionic valves. Plus a windowed case.
__________________
Author, Raspberry Pi User Guide, Meet the Raspberry Pi | gareth.halfacree.co.uk | twitter
bit-tech news correspondent, Custom PC columnist, other things to other people
I'm a filthy freelancer! Hire me!
Gareth Halfacree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2013, 11:00   #16
GuilleAcoustic
Ook ? Ook !
 
GuilleAcoustic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: France
Posts: 2,889
GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
Quote:
Originally Posted by '[USRF
But I would be very impressed if they had used BurBrown amps.
I'm buying the first motherboard to use thermionic valves. Plus a windowed case.
Tubes needs very good shielding and an almost perfect volatges, even the position and orientation of each chokes toward the others is important .... this is so pointless inside a computer case.

The PSU is the most important stage inside an high grade audio amp, and this is even more important when using a valve to amplify the audio signal.
__________________
Forum threads: Amiga reborn - GuilleAcoustic's audio thread

i5 4570 - Asus Z87 Gryphon + Thermal Armor - 8GB - Sandisk Extreme II 240GB - EVGA GTX770 - PC-V353A
GuilleAcoustic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2013, 11:03   #17
Gareth Halfacree
WIIGII!
bit-tech Staff
 
Gareth Halfacree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bradford, UK
Posts: 3,854
Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic View Post
Tubes needs very good shielding and an almost perfect volatges, even the position and orientation of each chokes toward the others is important .... this is so pointless inside a computer case.
T'was a joke, lad, a joke. Although anyone serious about valve amplification can enjoy modern features with glowing glass thanks to Samsung.

Either that, or just build the entire damn computer from valves. (Note: this, too, is a joke, as well as being entirely possible.)
__________________
Author, Raspberry Pi User Guide, Meet the Raspberry Pi | gareth.halfacree.co.uk | twitter
bit-tech news correspondent, Custom PC columnist, other things to other people
I'm a filthy freelancer! Hire me!
Gareth Halfacree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2013, 11:18   #18
GuilleAcoustic
Ook ? Ook !
 
GuilleAcoustic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: France
Posts: 2,889
GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic View Post
Tubes needs very good shielding and an almost perfect volatges, even the position and orientation of each chokes toward the others is important .... this is so pointless inside a computer case.
T'was a joke, lad, a joke. Although anyone serious about valve amplification can enjoy modern features with glowing glass thanks to Samsung.

Either that, or just build the entire damn computer from valves. (Note: this, too, is a joke, as well as being entirely possible.)
I'm a tube lovers and rush in every time I read such sentence ... ... AOpen made a motherboard using valves (that's why I over reacted )

__________________
Forum threads: Amiga reborn - GuilleAcoustic's audio thread

i5 4570 - Asus Z87 Gryphon + Thermal Armor - 8GB - Sandisk Extreme II 240GB - EVGA GTX770 - PC-V353A
GuilleAcoustic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2013, 12:47   #19
Gareth Halfacree
WIIGII!
bit-tech Staff
 
Gareth Halfacree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bradford, UK
Posts: 3,854
Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.Gareth Halfacree is definitely a rep cheat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic View Post
AOpen made a motherboard using valves (that's why I over reacted )
I... I have no words. I made what I thought was an obviously ridiculous suggestion and it turns out to be a real product. Right, stop the planet, I wanna get off.
__________________
Author, Raspberry Pi User Guide, Meet the Raspberry Pi | gareth.halfacree.co.uk | twitter
bit-tech news correspondent, Custom PC columnist, other things to other people
I'm a filthy freelancer! Hire me!
Gareth Halfacree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2013, 13:01   #20
GuilleAcoustic
Ook ? Ook !
 
GuilleAcoustic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: France
Posts: 2,889
GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree View Post
I... I have no words. I made what I thought was an obviously ridiculous suggestion and it turns out to be a real product. Right, stop the planet, I wanna get off.
I so understand you . Technology is full of ridiculous implementations
GuilleAcoustic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
a-style, a-style purity sound, amplifier, asrock a-style, motherboard audio, ne5532, on-board audio, purity sound, realtek, realtek alc1150, texas instruments, ti ne5532

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:09.
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.