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Old 25th Oct 2013, 11:01   #1
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Microsoft earnings suggest strong Surface growth

Still hasn't covered the write-down.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/20...rface-growth/1
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I hope that sales do pick up as I really like what they are doing, I for one will be looking for an RT device to replace my Android tablet in the near future... I'll never understand why some people are so anti the fact that RT doesn't run native desktop apps, it's like complaining that iOS devices don't run full MacOS programs.
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They do seem to be gaining sales at work, if they can sort out the App Store they will be laughing.
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despite revenue from Windows licences sales to original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) dropping by seven per cent - lower than the expected 15 per cent
Sorry if im being dumb, but im confused
If OEM sales only dropped 7% isn't that better than the expected 15%

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Good to see all those people who said the Surface was over priced have been proved right, Microsoft needed to get the Surface out there and used by people so they can take it for a test drive.
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Sorry if im being dumb, but im confused
If OEM sales only dropped 7% isn't that better than the expected 15%
Yes, it is: the article is saying that it's surprising to see revenue growth when one of Microsoft's biggest earners shrank - but points out, as an aside, that the shrinkage was lower than feared.
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Yea i think i got confused with what i thought was a hyphen between "seven per cent - lower", but after educating my self i think its actually a "En dash"

Either that or its the odd way my brain work (or doesn't)
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Yea i think i got confused with what i thought was a hyphen between "seven per cent - lower", but after educating my self i think its actually a "En dash"
It *should* be an en dash, but with my keyboard lacking an Alt.Gr. key that's a pain to type - so I do the lazy thing 99% of the rest of the t'web does and just use the minus symbol in place of hyphens, en dashes and em dashes. Bad form, I know.
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I am actually impressed by Microsoft's stand and development of their new products. Across the board (Windows, XBox One, Windows Phone and Surface, with the exception of maybe RT which will eventually become combined with WP) they are listening to customers and making relevant changes but there is little or no panic coming from them and certainly no rushing despite various sections of the company losing money right now. Windows Phone is slowly growing and Surface and Windows 8 are also gaining traction. The next year is looking increasingly important for Microsoft as everything comes on line and is due to sync up with the release of XBox One and 8.1 to fully roll out across various platforms.
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Today I played with some Android tablets. It was interesting how, well, bland they seemed in comparison with a Surface RT. And their Office alternatives really were no patch on the real thing. I think that Windows 8/RT has a lot of potential; let's hope they realise it.
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Today I played with some Android tablets. It was interesting how, well, bland they seemed in comparison with a Surface RT. And their Office alternatives really were no patch on the real thing. I think that Windows 8/RT has a lot of potential; let's hope they realise it.
Someone who doesnt want to spend much and doesnt need to work in Office on the move will go the Android route. And these are the large majority of users.
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In fact (Warning PDF) a study done by Google showed most tablets get used for checking Email, Playing games, Social networking, and Looking up information. The only times actually creating something came up it showed it was being done by a very small amount of people very rarely.
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And tablets prices are expected to lower even more.
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Tablet PC Shipment Forecast Lowered for the First Time Since 2011

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How much does Microsoft gets from selling WRT licenses to manufacturers?
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Today I played with some Android tablets. It was interesting how, well, bland they seemed in comparison with a Surface RT. And their Office alternatives really were no patch on the real thing. I think that Windows 8/RT has a lot of potential; let's hope they realise it.
Yep, I've known that for a while. At least you actually made the effort to use the alternative not like the rest of the trolls coming into this Microsoft topic to sprout their tales of doom and gloom on something they know nothing about.

P.S. research done by google about the use of google tablets is not an industry wide thorough report on the many uses of tablets. If you can't do something well on an android tablet, it's safe to say it wont get used in that way.
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Someone who doesnt want to spend much and doesnt need to work in Office on the move will go the Android route. And these are the large majority of users.
And yet, as I'm typing this from the 8.10am to London (delayed), I find myself surrounded by suits tapping away on their laptop --using Word and Outlook. Several tethered to charging sockets, by the way, and also toting iPads.

A light-weight, all day battery life tablet laptop hybrid with Office? For some people that makes sense.
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Yep, I've known that for a while. At least you actually made the effort to use the alternative not like the rest of the trolls coming into this Microsoft topic to sprout their tales of doom and gloom on something they know nothing about.

P.S. research done by google about the use of google tablets is not an industry wide thorough report on the many uses of tablets. If you can't do something well on an android tablet, it's safe to say it wont get used in that way.
Well feel free to provide us all with more up to date relevant research, but good luck with that as the research states...
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And if you had bothered to read the research you would have found that far from being biased toward android based tablets, it was biased towards Apple tablets.
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Also as far as i can see this thread hadn't degenerated into any "trolling" or people "sprout their tales of doom and gloom" or any anti Microsoft posts. If anything everyone has been positive about the Surface, something you would have seen if you had bothered to actually read something instead of spouting your usual inflammatory posts.
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"Good to see all those people who said the Surface was over priced have been proved right"

Gloated troll post if I ever saw one, based on what research? The same is said today of the price of iPads. But then it's defended as a quality product, which then tends to imply that Surface is not. Often said by those who haven't used it.

So did they include Surface tablets in that report then did they? Err, NO. Thorough report on the use of tablets then? Err, NO.

As Nexxo said, they are "bland" and not a patch on WinRT/8 and the real Office.
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"Good to see all those people who said the Surface was over priced have been proved right" Gloated troll post if I ever saw one, based on what research?
Based on the fact that a dramatic price cut saw sales more than double? In other words: of the people who owned a Surface tablet by the end of Microsoft's last financial quarter, the majority believed the tablet was overpriced at its original RRP - or they wouldn't have waited for the surprise price-cut to buy one.
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"Good to see all those people who said the Surface was over priced have been proved right"

Gloated troll post if I ever saw one, based on what research? The same is said today of the price of iPads. But then it's defended as a quality product, which then tends to imply that Surface is not. Often said by those who haven't used it.

So did they include Surface tablets in that report then did they? Err, NO. Thorough report on the use of tablets then? Err, NO.

As Nexxo said, they are "bland" and not a patch on WinRT/8 and the real Office.
Do you even bother reading anything before you go slinging accusations at people ?

If you had bothered to read the research you would have read it was done in 2010, long before the Surface was released. As i said if you can come up with more up to date and relevant research please do provide us with some other evidence on typical tablet usage.
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For some, sure.
And that is still a substantial market. Something Google has been shooting for with their Chromebook.

The Surface RT was overpriced. The iPad is overpriced, but people will pay a premium for its ecosystem. The Surface RT and Android tablets don't have that asset so they have to be more keenly priced. Android manufacturers certainly know that and compete on price.
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