bit-tech.net

Go Back   bit-tech.net Forums > bit-tech.net > Article Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12th Nov 2013, 11:25   #1
Meanmotion
bleh
 
Meanmotion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Reading
Posts: 1,650
Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.Meanmotion is definitely a rep cheat.
AMD Kaveri APU details and release date announced

AMD has revealed nearly all about its upcoming HSA APUs.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...ase-date-ann/1
Meanmotion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 11:54   #2
jrs77
theorycrafting
 
jrs77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,580
jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
All nice and dandy, but the CPU-part of this chip is what bothers me the most.

The 512 SPs of the IGP might be the same as on a HD7750, but it only has access to a shared DDR3 memory instead of GDDR5, so it won't come even close to a HD7750 in reality.

Also, we're quiet possibly speaking of a 135W-part for the A10-7850k, which isn't going to be cooled silently in a small box like a mITX-HTPC.

And as I said upfront, I'll be interested when the CPU-part of this chip can come close to the performance of an i5-xxxx, which the current A10-6800k simply doesn't.
__________________
...and allways remember, that the world is an orange!

Stop using your smartphone as much and look up!
jrs77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 11:56   #3
Corky42
I Mod, Therefore I Own
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,109
Corky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming SaiyanCorky42 is a Super Spamming Saiyan
Why does it seem odd that the GPU speed is 720MHz, when the 7750 is 825MHz and the next gen consoles are around 800Mhz. Im assuming Kaveri shares some similarity with the way the custom made jaguar chips share GPU and CPU memory, or am i way off with my assumption ?
Corky42 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 12:16   #4
Hustler
Hypermodder
 
Hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 619
Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Hustler is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
..And news of desktop FX CPU's is where?

At the end of the day, these FM2+ are for budget builds, I'm only interested if AMD are still going to release a proper, unlocked CPU for those who want a genuine alternative to Intel.

Unlocked, 4Ghz, 8 core Steamroller if you please AMD.....
Hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 13:27   #5
jrs77
theorycrafting
 
jrs77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,580
jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hustler View Post
..And news of desktop FX CPU's is where?

At the end of the day, these FM2+ are for budget builds, I'm only interested if AMD are still going to release a proper, unlocked CPU for those who want a genuine alternative to Intel.

Unlocked, 4Ghz, 8 core Steamroller if you please AMD.....
Will never happen again, that AMD develops and manufactures CPUs for the high-end-desktops. AMDs whole focus is on APUs and their new low-power ARM-based server-chips.

They've given up competing with intel basically.
__________________
...and allways remember, that the world is an orange!

Stop using your smartphone as much and look up!
jrs77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 13:42   #6
Snips
I can do dat, giz a job
 
Snips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: wiv me kids
Posts: 1,895
Snips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming SaiyanSnips is a Super Spamming Saiyan
I completely get it that AMD want to go for the lower end of the build spectrum. I just wish there was a single voice, from within the bowels of AMD that can stand up and say "Remember when we made stuff that were cool? Can we do that again?"
Snips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 13:42   #7
rollo
I Mod, Therefore I Own
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,321
rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.rollo is definitely a rep cheat.
Was not sure if AMD was continuing with its Fx range. Thought they were moving onto other things with there module designed cpus.

This is still 28nm so there is not huge gains to be had in reality. Expect this to be 5-10% better in graphics than the last version with similar cpu capabilities.
rollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 14:25   #8
GuilleAcoustic
Ook ? Ook !
 
GuilleAcoustic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: France
Posts: 2,977
GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.
Do not forget GCN, Mantle and true Audio addition ... this could make a nice little box. I'm wondering how Mantle enabled games will perform on this.
__________________
Forum threads: Amiga reborn - GuilleAcoustic's audio thread

i5 4570 - Asus Z87 Gryphon + Thermal Armor - 8GB - Sandisk Extreme II 240GB - EVGA GTX770 - PC-V353A
GuilleAcoustic is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 15:01   #9
bawjaws
Hypermodder
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 889
bawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyanbawjaws is a Super Spamming Saiyan
How Mantle performs in general is the $64,000 question, isn't it? Personally, I think it looks promising, but anyone buying AMD for Mantle alone is taking a leap of faith at this point.
bawjaws is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 15:03   #10
GeorgeStorm
Aggressive PC Builder
 
GeorgeStorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,261
GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.GeorgeStorm is definitely a rep cheat.
I would very much like them to release a higher power chip on this chipset (or any other in itx form!)

Just built myself a FM2 based build since I didn't want to wait and I got a good deal, but I'll be keeping an eye on these.
__________________
"Anyone who just plays games for fun is a n3rd" - Jörge "I should be in prison for what I'm thinking right now" - Will
My Parvum Systems build log - My flickr - My blog it'sfilmnotmovie - hwbot
GeorgeStorm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 16:22   #11
SAimNE
Multimodder
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 108
SAimNE has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic
Do not forget GCN, Mantle and true Audio addition ... this could make a nice little box. I'm wondering how Mantle enabled games will perform on this.
plus with hsa if you get a card it can crossfire with and 2gb+ of gddr5 you can easily get a huge level of performance(probably would be able to find non-ref cards that double memory or something)
SAimNE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 19:26   #12
azazel1024
Supermodder
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
Posts: 487
azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.azazel1024 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
Mmmm, CPU might be holding you back then though. 2 module/4 core is not a whole lot of processing power. Though it might be enough to get good frame rates in games if you got a 7750 and stuck it in crossfire with this thing.

Just...well, I guess it makes a fine budget machine.

The CPU is still just very, very sad (I think that works out to around 60-75% of a core i3 Ivy chip in single thread, depending on Steamrollers exact gains, and around 90-110% in multithreaded integer stuff).
__________________
Core 2 Duo E7500, MSI P43-C51, 2x2GB G.Skill Eco DDR3 1600 Cas 7, OCZ Vertex 60GB, Vertex 30GB, Samsung F3 500GB, Samsung F4 2TB, Powercolor Go Green ATI 5570
azazel1024 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 19:42   #13
SchizoFrog
Ultramodder
 
SchizoFrog's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: East London
Posts: 1,067
SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.SchizoFrog is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
For a mATX or mITX build I would still rather save up and then pay for an ASUS 760Ti Mini with pretty much any £80-£180 Intel CPU. Yes it costs more but you get much more performance and that build should last for years while still being able to build a small build.

For me, these APUs are only interesting when it comes to laptops and the potential for an NUC size build.
__________________
Fractal Design Arc Midi Rev II - ASUS P5K Premium WiFi
Q6600 - SilverStone Argon AR01 - 6GB Corsair PC2-6400 DHX
ASUS nVidia 750 Ti OC - Samsung 840 EVO 250GB
Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit)
SchizoFrog is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 20:41   #14
GuilleAcoustic
Ook ? Ook !
 
GuilleAcoustic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: France
Posts: 2,977
GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.GuilleAcoustic is definitely a rep cheat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by azazel1024 View Post
Mmmm, CPU might be holding you back then though. 2 module/4 core is not a whole lot of processing power. Though it might be enough to get good frame rates in games if you got a 7750 and stuck it in crossfire with this thing.

Just...well, I guess it makes a fine budget machine.

The CPU is still just very, very sad (I think that works out to around 60-75% of a core i3 Ivy chip in single thread, depending on Steamrollers exact gains, and around 90-110% in multithreaded integer stuff).
Quote:
Originally Posted by SchizoFrog View Post
For a mATX or mITX build I would still rather save up and then pay for an ASUS 760Ti Mini with pretty much any £80-£180 Intel CPU. Yes it costs more but you get much more performance and that build should last for years while still being able to build a small build.

For me, these APUs are only interesting when it comes to laptops and the potential for an NUC size build.
It all depends on what you need. Why paying nvidia + intel price if all you'll ever need is an APU ?
GuilleAcoustic is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 22:06   #15
jrs77
theorycrafting
 
jrs77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,580
jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuilleAcoustic View Post
It all depends on what you need. Why paying nvidia + intel price if all you'll ever need is an APU ?
That's right. For alot of people the AMD APUs are basically all they need for their office and multimedia-tasks.

If you're working on your machine - let alone playing games - then there's no way around an intel CPU currently.
__________________
...and allways remember, that the world is an orange!

Stop using your smartphone as much and look up!
jrs77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th Nov 2013, 23:33   #16
Assassin8or
Modder
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 60
Assassin8or has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrs77 View Post
The 512 SPs of the IGP might be the same as on a HD7750, but it only has access to a shared DDR3 memory instead of GDDR5, so it won't come even close to a HD7750 in reality.

Also, we're quiet possibly speaking of a 135W-part for the A10-7850k, which isn't going to be cooled silently in a small box like a mITX-HTPC.
I shouldn't think it would be that high. The HD7750 is a sub 75W part itself and can be passively cooled. The CPU is also not a particularly high wattage part either.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrs77 View Post
Will never happen again, that AMD develops and manufactures CPUs for the high-end-desktops. AMDs whole focus is on APUs and their new low-power ARM-based server-chips.

They've given up competing with intel basically.
Which is very sad indeed for the rest of the industry. In time, with profitability, and if there is still money to be made in the x86 business, AMD could return in force, but it would take a ballsy CEO and some outstanding engineers to pull the company out of the mire into which their x86 business has sunk.

I would have loved to have seen AMD continue pushing cores for example. Not the way that they have with the Bulldozer architectures, but real high IPC cores. You may say that we don't need such large numbers of cores, but servers do and it's a nice side benefit to get additional cores on the high end desktop.

Intel have stopped pushing cores so much on the desktop, instead focusing on mediocre 10% IPC improvements and 100MHz speed bumps year to year and integrated GPUs that are never used by most people that build custom machines. Even the new X79 parts are the lowest end of the IB-E parts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bawjaws View Post
How Mantle performs in general is the $64,000 question, isn't it? Personally, I think it looks promising, but anyone buying AMD for Mantle alone is taking a leap of faith at this point.
I took a punt on Mantle when I saw the HD7970 prices come down. It wasn't the only consideration, but it was certainly part of it;along with boosting my folding output massively.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snips View Post
I just wish there was a single voice, from within the bowels of AMD that can stand up and say "Remember when we made stuff that were cool? Can we do that again?"
This so much!
Assassin8or is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th Nov 2013, 07:23   #17
jrs77
theorycrafting
 
jrs77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,580
jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.jrs77 is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Assassin8or View Post
I shouldn't think it would be that high. The HD7750 is a sub 75W part itself and can be passively cooled. The CPU is also not a particularly high wattage part either.
If you look at the current A10-6800k and the current FX then a 125-135 Watt isn't that high of an estimate tbh.

Quote:
Which is very sad indeed for the rest of the industry. In time, with profitability, and if there is still money to be made in the x86 business, AMD could return in force, but it would take a ballsy CEO and some outstanding engineers to pull the company out of the mire into which their x86 business has sunk.
Yes it is sad, as intel doesn't need to improve much either, allthough they actually do quiet alot imho. Especially shrinking their nodes further and further with 14nm to come in 2014.
And allthough the processing-power doesn't increase much, but the overall-performance gets better this way nevertheless. And they've shown with their Iris Pro chips, that they can actually built a good APU to begin with.

Quote:
I would have loved to have seen AMD continue pushing cores for example. Not the way that they have with the Bulldozer architectures, but real high IPC cores. You may say that we don't need such large numbers of cores, but servers do and it's a nice side benefit to get additional cores on the high end desktop.

Intel have stopped pushing cores so much on the desktop, instead focusing on mediocre 10% IPC improvements and 100MHz speed bumps year to year and integrated GPUs that are never used by most people that build custom machines. Even the new X79 parts are the lowest end of the IB-E parts.
More than 4 cores aren't that much of interest for the absolute majority of desktops. Only those who do alot of rendering are really in need of as many cores as possible, but these people usually work with render-nodes to offload the work to a second machine purely ment for the task.

The thing I'm mostly interested in is performance/Watt and singlethread-performance. And in this area intel beats AMD since the introduction of the first Core2Duo.
AMD could for example develop on more efficient CPUs to compete with intel on the performance/Watt-area, but they don't seem to have any interest in that for desktop-parts and focus on that area only in the server-market with their new multicore ARM-based chips.
__________________
...and allways remember, that the world is an orange!

Stop using your smartphone as much and look up!
jrs77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th Nov 2013, 09:00   #18
Harlequin
I Mod, Therefore I Own
 
Harlequin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Eastbourne ,East Sussex ,UK
Posts: 4,760
Harlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming SaiyanHarlequin is a Super Spamming Saiyan
Iris pro good? really? its a larger die than the GTX 660!!

horrensous cost as well - AMD have the market here , and tbh who actually cares at the latest i7 - games are really GFX limited now.
__________________
i have a 3dfx voodoo5 6000
Harlequin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 13th Nov 2013, 09:14   #19
Gareth Halfacree
WIIGII!
bit-tech Staff
 
Gareth Halfacree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bradford, UK
Posts: 4,272
Gareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming Saiyan
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrs77 View Post
More than 4 cores aren't that much of interest for the absolute majority of desktops. Only those who do alot of rendering are really in need of as many cores as possible, but these people usually work with render-nodes to offload the work to a second machine purely ment for the task.
Unless you're a Linux/BSD user, in which case the more cores the better. I use a quad-core chip, and would really like an eight-core when I next upgrade - because it has a direct impact on how quickly I can get things done.

Perfect example: let's say I'm compressing backups. While the traditional bzip2 application is single-threaded, I use lbzip - which is multi-threaded with a pretty nearly linear gain in performance, meaning what would have taken an hour is done in just 15 minutes. What about when I'm reprocessing PDFs to reduce the resolution of the embedded images for posting on the web? Again, normally that'd be a single-threaded operation - but using GNU Parallel to drive Ghostscript means I can run four instances at the same time on my list of PDFs to be processed, again finishing the job in around a quarter the time it would normally take. If I had an eight-core chip, I'd be getting these jobs done in an eighth the time.

Sure, if you're running *Windows* then anything above a quad-core might be a waste except for selected specialist scenarios, but don't tar all computer users with the same brush. My AMD chip might be weak in IPC, but it's a damn sight faster for my workloads than an equivalently-priced dual-core Intel part. S'why I bought it, after all.
__________________
Author, Raspberry Pi User Guide Third Edition, 21 Brilliant Projects for the Raspberry Pi and more | gareth.halfacree.co.uk | twitter | keybase.io
bit-tech news correspondent, Custom PC columnist, other things to other people
I'm a filthy freelancer! Hire me!
Gareth Halfacree is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 13th Nov 2013, 10:02   #20
Bindibadgi
I Mod, Therefore I Own
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 34,814
Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.Bindibadgi is definitely a rep cheat.
As soon as AMD can offload its FPU computations to future GCN, there will be no concern over 'core' count. ALU will do the mundane tasks and you'll have tons of FPU for everything else.

It's a shame AMD hasn't committed to a '6-core' FM2+ though, and just whacked up the TDP for shits-n-giggles. They won't win awards but enthusiasts wouldn't care. FX9000 series still sold, and FM2+ has TrueAudio/PCIe/etc
Bindibadgi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:50.
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.