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Old 16th Dec 2013, 15:48   #1
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Nvidia G-Sync monitor up for pre-order

New anti-tear, anti-stutter monitor up for pre-order on Scan.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...or-pre-order/1
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Old 16th Dec 2013, 16:20   #2
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160 more expensive than the standard VG248QE
That sounds like its going to be popular
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Old 16th Dec 2013, 16:45   #3
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160 more expensive than the standard VG248QE
That sounds like its going to be popular
Well it shouldn't become more expensive at least... right? Might be a nice feature for upcoming 4k panels actually, considering I would expect consistently dipping framerates on demanding games, even with top-notch systems. And at that level, the extra 160 or something would be very palatable for a genuinely better experience.
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Eh, it's still very early days. Apparently most of that cost is because Nvidia have used an FPGA for the first G-Sync board to get it out onto the market. The price will drop drastically once they fab an ASIC for it.

I think G-Sync should be ideally suited for 4K monitors - not only does their high price make them suitable for swallowing the cost, the fact that you only need to pack enough hardware to reach 30-40fps rather than 60fps for a smooth image means 4K gaming will becoming a far more realistic proposition.
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Guess only those with deep pockets will be buying them then, well until the manufacturers get sick of all that stock not selling and decide to drop prices a bit. I would say they should cost no more than £50-75 more than the standard monitor in order to take off.

This price is a bit scary to say the least, if they want it to catch on and become widespread they need to start surveying people and I don't mean the usual Nvidia fan boys and asking them what they think is a fair price. God I wished there was a 3rd competitor in the GPU industry instead of the current one horse and a lame donkey race we have at present.
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There is an article about it here, how it is to "live" with it.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...c-monitor.html

I never experience tear etc, on the 120hz monitor. And I bet, a 144hz monitor going to have less chances to experience those issues.

Only 60hz monitors seems are affected, because the refresh rate is low and can be noticeable, or the graphic card too fast.
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Eh, it's still very early days. Apparently most of that cost is because Nvidia have used an FPGA for the first G-Sync board to get it out onto the market. The price will drop drastically once they fab an ASIC for it.

I think G-Sync should be ideally suited for 4K monitors - not only does their high price make them suitable for swallowing the cost, the fact that you only need to pack enough hardware to reach 30-40fps rather than 60fps for a smooth image means 4K gaming will becoming a far more realistic proposition.
So Nvidia have created a device that reduces the requirement for powerful graphics hardware... Did they think this through?
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Only 60hz monitors seems are affected, because the refresh rate is low and can be noticeable, or the graphic card too fast.
G-sync's benefits are actually in the lower refresh rates, where performance can vary wildly between 30fps (where G-sync begins frame-doubling) and 60fps. While normally this delay variance would exhibit as stutter and/or tearing (depending on buffering setup used), G-sync will just push complete frames as and when they're rendered.
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Old 17th Dec 2013, 01:11   #9
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G-Sync on a massive 4k IPS screen

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Still making their way closer to a CRT, if only we could still buy CRTs we would not have all these problems...
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Still making their way closer to a CRT, if only we could still buy CRTs we would not have all these problems...
While I do still love CRT, CRTs also operated on a fixed refresh rate at any given time.

While they DID have multisync monitors, you couldn't adjust the refresh on a per-frame basis because the beam waits for no man. If you miss VSync, you can't just say "hold that frame for a few beats, I'm not ready yet." You have to put SOMETHING up.

In this case, they're actually removing a restriction that only exists BECAUSE of CRTs, not working around a restriction that didn't exist on CRTs.
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Old 18th Dec 2013, 06:45   #12
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unless it is open for others (cough AMD), I don;t think i'd care for a monitor that supports g-sync
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