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Old 31st Jan 2014, 11:16   #1
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Seagate promises 6TB drives this year

Q2 launch to compete with WD.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar.../seagate-6tb/1
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 14:15   #2
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Sadly for those hoping that the launch will lead to a high-capacity price war, Luczo noted that the first 6TB drives will be aimed firmly at the enterprise storage market - meaning it could be a while before prices drop to the level of the enthusiast's pocket.
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 17:09   #3
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Grrrr. Not mad at the uber high price, mad that these are still stinking 1TB per platter designs. It does make me wonder though, if they have 1, 2, 3 and 4 platter designs and are looking at a 6 platter 6TB design, what about also coming out with a 5TB 5 platter design more consumer oriented?

Sigh, even a slight bump to 1.2TB per platter would go a long way. ~2.5TB 2 platter design, ~5TB 4 platter and 6TB 5 platter designs then.

It seems like hard drive areal density is plateauing a lot recently. It's been, what? 18 months, at least, since 1TB per platter designs hit and by the admissions of both WD/HGST and Seagate it doesn't look like either of them will release designs with >1TB per platter in 2014. So a minimum of another 12 months, or 2.5+ years before we move from 1TB per platter to something higher.

SSDs are catching up, fast. I'll bet we'll see some 1.5TB designs this year as the big guys start moving from designs like 19x25nm cells to 19x19nm cells and stuff and in another year or two we'll probably see 2+TB SSD designs (in a 2.5" form factor to be clear).
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I hope they are reliable, Seagate doesn't have a good history but it seems they are making some progress.
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...sks-are-equal/
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I hope they are reliable, Seagate doesn't have a good history but it seems they are making some progress.
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...sks-are-equal/
I covered that very same report here, y'know.
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 20:18   #6
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As far as I know, the 6TB He drives aren't even available through normal channels yet.

I'm not in any rush, but I wouldn't mind a couple for backup purposes if the price was reasonable.
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Great another useless use for Helium.
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I hope they are reliable, Seagate doesn't have a good history but it seems they are making some progress.
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...sks-are-equal/
I covered that very same report here, y'know.
Might want to consider this http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/60...red/index.html as well.

Sounds like that data may not be very reliable at all.
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Great another useless use for Helium.
It results in electricity saving so surely positive given how little gas is needed to a fill a 3.5" drive.
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Great another useless use for Helium.
It results in electricity saving so surely positive given how little gas is needed to a fill a 3.5" drive.
Perhaps, but not exactly a long-term solution.....

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If they can keep helium in - which is difficult, since it diffuses through objects quite easily, as every balloon-owner knows - they could probably just as easily maintain a vacuum in there.

Gimmick.
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I hope they are reliable, Seagate doesn't have a good history but it seems they are making some progress.
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...sks-are-equal/
I covered that very same report here, y'know.
Might want to consider this http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/60...red/index.html as well.

Sounds like that data may not be very reliable at all.
Perhaps. But it is data. I think the cold harsh truth is the real data is going to be hard to come by. It would rely on companies being honest and open. This includes too many companies reliant on third parties maintaining their hardware also. I can't see much incentive for anyone to do anything other than avoid actually **** products.
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Might want to consider this http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/60...red/index.html as well.

Sounds like that data may not be very reliable at all.
That was a good article - thanks for the share.
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Hitachi's 3.5" division is actually owned by Toshiba now, not Western Digital.

WD got Hitachi's laptop HDD division, the desktop division went to Toshiba as a regulatory compliance clause to avoid consolidating all HDD manufacture into two companies.
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If they can keep helium in - which is difficult, since it diffuses through objects quite easily, as every balloon-owner knows - they could probably just as easily maintain a vacuum in there. Gimmick.
The reason they don't do that is because a vacuum is a highly efficient insulator - ever owned a Thermos flask? - and while putting the drive's components in a vacuum would reduce drag still further over helium, it would also result in the drive rapidly overheating.

Which was addressed in the original article, and further expounded upon in the comments section.
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Hitachi's 3.5" division is actually owned by Toshiba now, not Western Digital. WD got Hitachi's laptop HDD division, the desktop division went to Toshiba as a regulatory compliance clause to avoid consolidating all HDD manufacture into two companies.
Rings a bell - I'd forgotten about that!
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