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Old 9th Apr 2014, 13:00   #1
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AMD launches AM1 Kabini desktop range

First socketed SoC design.
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Old 9th Apr 2014, 13:07   #2
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I had a stab at XBMC on Raspberry Pi, but it was a bit sluggish for my liking, and my old Mini-ITX Intel build was too noisy to work in the long run... this could be what convinces me to have another go - it looks ideal.
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Gigabyte GA-AM1M-S2H mATX is £24.82 (pre-order) and Asus AM1I-A mITX £26.64 at Scan. Great prices. I just hope the APUs themselves are cheap enough.
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I'm already using an A4-5000 Jaguar SoC in my HTPC. I'm pretty sure it's BGA rather than socketed under the tiny passive heatsink, but I was on the bandwagon a while ago. Great little thing, a "Radeon HD 8330" and what is essentially much the same as a PS4/Xbone processor with a few less cores

It's made a nice fanless rig.
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I just hope the APUs themselves are cheap enough.
We can certainly do some guesswork. The AMD A10-6800K APU's official list price per unit in trays of 1,000 is $142; Newegg will currently sell you a retail version for $130. Yes, that's bizarre; nevertheless, that gives us a list-to-retail ratio of 0.92. Converting Newegg's price to Pounds Sterling makes £93.22 including VAT; Ebuyer sells the same chip in retail packaging for £103.58, for a rip-off Britain ratio of 1.11.

Take the $55 list price for the top-end AM1 Athlon, and times it by the list-to-retail ratio to get an estimated retail price of $50.60. Convert that to the Queen's currency and add the VAT and you get £36.24; times this by the rip-off Britain ratio to get an estimated UK retail price of £40.22.

*However*, I can see 'ere on this slide a claim of $59 for the top-end Athlon, which I'm assuming is AMD's manufacturer's recommended retail price given that it's $4 higher than the $55 per unit in tray form I've been quoted for AMD direct purchases. *So*, leaving the list-to-retail ratio alone and doing a straightforward currency conversion, VAT and the 11% rip-off Britain addition would give us £42.30.

In short: expect the top-end chip to sit just north of £40 and I doubt you'll be far wrong. That would put it roughly level with the AMD A6-6400K, or Intel's Pentium G3220.

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Take the $55 list price for the top-end AM1 Athlon, and times it by the list-to-retail ratio to get an estimated retail price of $50.60. Convert that to the Queen's currency and add the VAT and you get £36.24; times this by the rip-off Britain ratio to get an estimated UK retail price of £40.22
Not a bad guess...

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Hah! I did wonder if they'd take a hit and opt for the sub-£40 mark. Considering the cost of the motherboards, that's pretty darn good: add in a stick or two of RAM, small storage drive and a cheapy-cheap PSU and case and you could potentially have a brand-new quad-core system for ~£100.

EDIT: Updated the article with UK pricing.
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I'm planning a wee build for my sister and nephew and this could well be perfect! It needs to play minecraft though, BENCHMARK THE MINECRAFTS!
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Grab one of these small cases with 65W PSU+Brick, put OpenELEC on a USB-Stick and you've got yourself a totally silent and damn cheap HTPC.
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Getting to be a bit of a fan boy here, but the HP Microserver Gen7, after rebate's only £100, includes a processor, motherboard, case, power supply, memory and HDD, and it's quiet. Add a discrete half height HDMI card, you're looking at £130 all in...

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Getting to be a bit of a fan boy here, but the HP Microserver Gen7, after rebate's only £100, includes a processor, motherboard, case, power supply, memory and HDD, and it's quiet. Add a discrete half height HDMI card, you're looking at £130 all in...
Far weaker CPU, though, and it ain't silent. Sure, it's not like what I had in the 90s with its 60mm Delta CPU fan, but my Microserver N54L is easily the nosiest thing in the office - far more so than my A10-5800K desktop.
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Getting to be a bit of a fan boy here, but the HP Microserver Gen7, after rebate's only £100, includes a processor, motherboard, case, power supply, memory and HDD, and it's quiet. Add a discrete half height HDMI card, you're looking at £130 all in...
Far weaker CPU, though, and it ain't silent. Sure, it's not like what I had in the 90s with its 60mm Delta CPU fan, but my Microserver N54L is easily the nosiest thing in the office - far more so than my A10-5800K desktop.
Mine is pretty quiet - but then it's new, and I'm only running Freenas... But point taken...
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This is pretty exciting really. I mean, a PC for around £100....

Let's just hope that there's a nice cheap ITX board and they're not butt rape prices.
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This is pretty exciting really. I mean, a PC for around £100....

Let's just hope that there's a nice cheap ITX board and they're not butt rape prices.

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Hurrah ! at forking last !!

Becoming more and more interested in this as the hours pass.

Ed. Bah it needs a 16x PCIE...
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Wait... Is that a serial port? <checks specs> It is a serial port! Blimey, AMD may just have created something the digital signage and industrial embedded markets are going to *love*...
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Wait... Is that a serial port? <checks specs> It is a serial port! Blimey, AMD may just have created something the digital signage and industrial embedded markets are going to *love*...
Thinking about it the gambling industry could use that too. Their RNG dongles are usually off board serial or USB devices.
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Becoming more and more interested in this as the hours pass.

Ed. Bah it needs a 16x PCIE...
what `needs` 16x pcie that's not a gfx card??
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Interesting, not quite enough oomph to be suitable for the media PC at home, so I don't regret building that over Christmas.

Might be nice for low power PCs elsewhere in the house though if the need arises.
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