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psYCHopath · 27th Feb 2002, 07:34

herbs · 27th Feb 2002, 08:19

If I understand correctly you just want to ping another box, if so drop down to dos and type ping x.x.x.x the x.x.x.x is the ip of the other machine. The IP can be found on win9x/me by going to run and typing winipcfg. In NT/2k/XP drop down to a command box by typing cmd in a run box, then type ipconfig /all. If you have a modem on any of this boxes the details of that will be displayed first.

Hope that helps

Sim0n · 27th Feb 2002, 08:32

yep thats right.

say that ;
PC1 has IP = 192.168.0.1
PC2 has IP = 192.168.0.2

just drop to a dos prompt, or command box and just type
"ping 192.168.0.1"

and if they can see each other it will report something like this;

Reply from 192.168.0.1; bytes=32 time=<10ms TTL=255

this information isnt really important, its just states that the network is resonding faster than 10ms.

If there is a fault somewhere it will report ;

Request Timed Out.

This will mean the PC are not communicating, usally down to incorrectly configured firewall software.

woppysittank · 27th Feb 2002, 12:09

Firewall software? the guy didnt mention anything about firewall software. You ned to make sure also that you are using the correct network cables, for a normal switch/hub between the PC's you need to use a standard CAT5 twisted pair network cable, and NOT a x-over cable (which is only used to connect multiple switches/hubs together OR to connect two PC's directly without any hubs/switches)

Also you need to make sure that the IP addresses are in the same ranger, using a compatible subnet maks also.

For example, say PC 1 has an IP address of 192.168.0.1 and a subnet of 255.255.255.0, and PC2 has an IP address of 192.169 .0.2 and the same subnet of 255.255.255.0, then they wont see each other.

All this may seem confusing but when you get your head around it then it will be a breeze. I know as I'm pretty network orientated from my job.

Hope that helps.:cool:

Sim0n · 27th Feb 2002, 12:20

true, but why would he need such a restrictive sub-net

255.0.0.0 would be a lot easy as this doent lock him down so much

woppysittank · 27th Feb 2002, 12:27

Hey I'm just trying to make things clear incase he has set the subnet mask to that range, some people may do so. Just covering all bases. Just a guy trying to help out. Sounds like you know some networking too though

Just one thing, whats that picture of a laptop on your sig for? Do you have one? I've got 2 at home, great for just lying in bed when you cant be arsed to get to your PC

herbs · 27th Feb 2002, 13:53

netmask 255.255.255.0 will be just fine, unless he has over 255 pcs on the network. If he does then he shouldn't really be asking this type of question.

Sim0n · 27th Feb 2002, 14:06

lets not argue, for fear of confusing him.

I would agree on setting the PCs up like this

PC1 ;

IP : 192.168.0.1
SUB : 255.255.255.0

PC2 ;

IP : 192.168.0.2
SUB : 255.255.255.0

That should work fine

Fly · 27th Feb 2002, 14:46

Quote:

Originally posted by __CyPHeR__
lets not argue, for fear of confusing him.

I would agree on setting the PCs up like this

PC1 ;

IP : 192.168.1.1
SUB : 255.255.255.0

PC2 ;

IP : 192.168.1.2
SUB : 255.255.255.0

That should work fine

That is the standard for home networks and has worked for thousands...

Sim0n · 27th Feb 2002, 15:12

thanks fly, under your wing my network knowledge grows daily.

** BLLLLLARRRRRRGGGGGGG fetch a bucket **

woppysittank · 27th Feb 2002, 15:17

So Cypher MY suggestion of the subnet... you thank FLY for the knowledge???

Also your future rig.... PC133 ram??? and a celery cpu??? you obviously aint looking for a speedy machine!:rofl:
Ack!

Sim0n · 27th Feb 2002, 15:34

well in theory either IP would have done, so its not such a bit issue.

I thanked fly coz i see him as a mentor for houning my networking skillz, i hardly know anything.

Nad the future Rig, whats wrong with a Celeron, the core and everything is basically a P3.

Anyway, you shouldnt really be posting comments like that into the networking thread, we are supposed to help this person, not argue or anything.

Last comment : what i build is my business, not everyone has enuff money for a dogz bollox system, im not a heavy gamer, more a grpahical person.

woppysittank · 27th Feb 2002, 15:39

"Nad the future Rig, whats wrong with a Celeron, the core and everything is basically a P3. "

I thought we weren't supposed to talk about that in the networking section

It's just I remember a thread earlier that i seen about you thinking of starting a lan gaming company... And looking at your profile you're a PC engineer, us engineers always want to have the fastest units. Just thought you might of been a gamer as you're in a counter strike clan.

psYCHopath · 28th Feb 2002, 04:14

LOL but anyway thanks for all the replies .......

get to understand you guys explained

but just need to know more about "sub mask" whats it function for?

Oh yeah I also wanna ask what books do you recomand?

psYCHopath · 28th Feb 2002, 04:17

Oh yeah i seen those weird words below peoples name...

__CyPHeR__ how did you change them?

sorry to ask questions not about networking stuff here

woppysittank · 28th Feb 2002, 06:19

Microsoft networking essentials is a very good book for understanding how networks run, to explain subnet masks is kinda like teaching the meaning of life if you know what I mean

Sim0n · 28th Feb 2002, 06:53

Rights im gunna try to ansa all the questions in one post

Quote:

Oh yeah i seen those weird words below peoples name... __CyPHeR__ how did you change them?

This becomes a option, as does the custom pictures, after you have reached the 250 post mark.

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Quote:

LOL but anyway thanks for all the replies .......
get to understand you guys explained
but just need to know more about "sub mask" whats it function for?
Oh yeah I also wanna ask what books do you recomand?

Sub-Net Masking discribed in the simple terms is a meathod of limiting the amount of IP address availible on a network.

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Quote:

It's just I remember a thread earlier that i seen about you thinking of starting a lan gaming company... And looking at your profile you're a PC engineer, us engineers always want to have the fastest units. Just thought you might of been a gamer as you're in a counter strike clan.

I see your point, but The NEW celeron is a very underrated chip, i can see it taking off if people get the image of the old Celeron out of there head.

When i get around to it, you can unlock these procesors upto 2Ghz with watercooling.

Oh and CS, you can run that on a Celeron 400 and still get 100 Frames, its only a 16bit game so a 2Ghz C will play no faster than a 1Ghz PC when you hit the 100FPS buffer.

Rght personally i think this thread should be closed, as the original question has now been ansaed and this is now turning in to a hardware conversation.

Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread a happy place

Fly · 28th Feb 2002, 12:13

If you want to test the network connection for throughput you can uses SiSandra , it has a network testing tool as well as many others.

here is a website all about Windows networking. The guy is a bit of a guru but is German so his english isn't that hot and he has a weird sense of humour, nevertheless he is very informed!

You will notice that I have changed my post about the network settings, 192.168.1.1 instead of 192.168.0.1 .

psYCHopath · 4th Mar 2002, 01:56

LOL

__Cypher__

hard ware conversation......

Thanks alot m8 for answering all my questions

I see 250 hmmm wonder when i can reach that point.

hehe...woppysittank i just dun realy like micro$oft porducts

bringging lots of headace.....

herbs · 4th Mar 2002, 08:17

If you really want to learn about networking, get a good *nux book. Why? , well *nixs were designed to be networked from day 1 unlike windows which had bits bolted on later on.I learnt more reading about linux networking than I did about networking at uni.

27th Feb 2002, 07:34	#1
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27th Feb 2002, 08:19	#2
herbs Nobody but us chickens Join Date: May 2001 Location: feck knows Posts: 3,858	If I understand correctly you just want to ping another box, if so drop down to dos and type ping x.x.x.x the x.x.x.x is the ip of the other machine. The IP can be found on win9x/me by going to run and typing winipcfg. In NT/2k/XP drop down to a command box by typing cmd in a run box, then type ipconfig /all. If you have a modem on any of this boxes the details of that will be displayed first. Hope that helps __________________ A police recruit was asked during the exam, "What would you do if you had to arrest your own mother?" He said, "Call for backup." "you could have it all, my empire of dirt, I will let you down, I will make you hurt"

27th Feb 2002, 13:53	#7
herbs Nobody but us chickens Join Date: May 2001 Location: feck knows Posts: 3,858	netmask 255.255.255.0 will be just fine, unless he has over 255 pcs on the network. If he does then he shouldn't really be asking this type of question. __________________ A police recruit was asked during the exam, "What would you do if you had to arrest your own mother?" He said, "Call for backup." "you could have it all, my empire of dirt, I will let you down, I will make you hurt"

27th Feb 2002, 15:39	#13
woppysittank Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 21	"Nad the future Rig, whats wrong with a Celeron, the core and everything is basically a P3. " I thought we weren't supposed to talk about that in the networking section It's just I remember a thread earlier that i seen about you thinking of starting a lan gaming company... And looking at your profile you're a PC engineer, us engineers always want to have the fastest units. Just thought you might of been a gamer as you're in a counter strike clan. Last edited by woppysittank; 27th Feb 2002 at 16:17.

28th Feb 2002, 04:14	#14
psYCHopath Supermodder Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: somewhere near Western Digital factory Posts: 309	Thanks LOL but anyway thanks for all the replies ....... get to understand you guys explained but just need to know more about "sub mask" whats it function for? Oh yeah I also wanna ask what books do you recomand?

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27th Feb 2002, 08:32	#3
Sim0n Ultramodder Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 1,140	yep thats right. say that ; PC1 has IP = 192.168.0.1 PC2 has IP = 192.168.0.2 just drop to a dos prompt, or command box and just type "ping 192.168.0.1" and if they can see each other it will report something like this; Reply from 192.168.0.1; bytes=32 time=<10ms TTL=255 this information isnt really important, its just states that the network is resonding faster than 10ms. If there is a fault somewhere it will report ; Request Timed Out. This will mean the PC are not communicating, usally down to incorrectly configured firewall software.

27th Feb 2002, 12:09	#4
woppysittank Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 21	Firewall software? the guy didnt mention anything about firewall software. You ned to make sure also that you are using the correct network cables, for a normal switch/hub between the PC's you need to use a standard CAT5 twisted pair network cable, and NOT a x-over cable (which is only used to connect multiple switches/hubs together OR to connect two PC's directly without any hubs/switches) Also you need to make sure that the IP addresses are in the same ranger, using a compatible subnet maks also. For example, say PC 1 has an IP address of 192.168.0.1 and a subnet of 255.255.255.0, and PC2 has an IP address of 192.169 .0.2 and the same subnet of 255.255.255.0, then they wont see each other. All this may seem confusing but when you get your head around it then it will be a breeze. I know as I'm pretty network orientated from my job. Hope that helps.:cool:

27th Feb 2002, 12:20	#5
Sim0n Ultramodder Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 1,140	true, but why would he need such a restrictive sub-net 255.0.0.0 would be a lot easy as this doent lock him down so much

27th Feb 2002, 12:27	#6
woppysittank Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 21	Hey I'm just trying to make things clear incase he has set the subnet mask to that range, some people may do so. Just covering all bases. Just a guy trying to help out. Sounds like you know some networking too though Just one thing, whats that picture of a laptop on your sig for? Do you have one? I've got 2 at home, great for just lying in bed when you cant be arsed to get to your PC

27th Feb 2002, 14:06	#8
Sim0n Ultramodder Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 1,140	lets not argue, for fear of confusing him. I would agree on setting the PCs up like this PC1 ; IP : 192.168.0.1 SUB : 255.255.255.0 PC2 ; IP : 192.168.0.2 SUB : 255.255.255.0 That should work fine

27th Feb 2002, 15:12	#10
Sim0n Ultramodder Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 1,140	thanks fly, under your wing my network knowledge grows daily. BLLLLLARRRRRRGGGGGGG fetch a bucket

27th Feb 2002, 15:17	#11
woppysittank Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 21	So Cypher MY suggestion of the subnet... you thank FLY for the knowledge??? Also your future rig.... PC133 ram??? and a celery cpu??? you obviously aint looking for a speedy machine!:rofl: Ack!

27th Feb 2002, 15:34	#12
Sim0n Ultramodder Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 1,140	well in theory either IP would have done, so its not such a bit issue. I thanked fly coz i see him as a mentor for houning my networking skillz, i hardly know anything. Nad the future Rig, whats wrong with a Celeron, the core and everything is basically a P3. Anyway, you shouldnt really be posting comments like that into the networking thread, we are supposed to help this person, not argue or anything. Last comment : what i build is my business, not everyone has enuff money for a dogz bollox system, im not a heavy gamer, more a grpahical person.

28th Feb 2002, 04:17	#15
psYCHopath Supermodder Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: somewhere near Western Digital factory Posts: 309	Oh yeah i seen those weird words below peoples name... __CyPHeR__ how did you change them? sorry to ask questions not about networking stuff here

28th Feb 2002, 06:19	#16
woppysittank Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 21	Microsoft networking essentials is a very good book for understanding how networks run, to explain subnet masks is kinda like teaching the meaning of life if you know what I mean

28th Feb 2002, 12:13	#18
Fly inter arma silent leges Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 3,759	If you want to test the network connection for throughput you can uses SiSandra , it has a network testing tool as well as many others. here is a website all about Windows networking. The guy is a bit of a guru but is German so his english isn't that hot and he has a weird sense of humour, nevertheless he is very informed! You will notice that I have changed my post about the network settings, 192.168.1.1 instead of 192.168.0.1 . __________________ "Flying is simple; push on the stick and the houses become bigger, pull back on the stick and houses become smaller, unless you keep pulling in which case the houses will become bigger again..."

4th Mar 2002, 01:56	#19
psYCHopath Supermodder Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: somewhere near Western Digital factory Posts: 309	LOL __Cypher__ hard ware conversation...... Thanks alot m8 for answering all my questions I see 250 hmmm wonder when i can reach that point. hehe...woppysittank i just dun realy like micro$oft porducts bringging lots of headace.....

4th Mar 2002, 08:17	#20
herbs Nobody but us chickens Join Date: May 2001 Location: feck knows Posts: 3,858	If you really want to learn about networking, get a good nux book. Why? , well nixs were designed to be networked from day 1 unlike windows which had bits bolted on later on.I learnt more reading about linux networking than I did about networking at uni. __________________ A police recruit was asked during the exam, "What would you do if you had to arrest your own mother?" He said, "Call for backup." "you could have it all, my empire of dirt, I will let you down, I will make you hurt"