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WilHarris · 28th Jun 2005, 10:18

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/06/28/amd_sues_intel/
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/06...ntel_coverage/
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/07...intel_lawsuit/

Highland3r · 28th Jun 2005, 10:24

Woah! Go AMD!
This could indeed be a huge shakeup in the market IF AMD win. Keep us posted on any developments

Firehed · 28th Jun 2005, 10:37

Hmm... wonder if that includes dell. Surely they're aware that their xps's suck for gaming relative to an AMD proc of the same price (although by my understanding, it's Dell's own choice)

I wonder what this will do to pricing in the long run...

Highland3r · 28th Jun 2005, 10:47

Don't Dell get v cheap cpu's from Intel? Think they basically priced AMD out of the equation...

koola · 28th Jun 2005, 11:02

About time Intel got what was coming to them!

Darkedge · 28th Jun 2005, 11:29

Good for AMD and the consumer - I hope they win. And of course I also hope someone screws Micheal Dell up the arse, and not in a good way.

Gordy · 28th Jun 2005, 12:21

If true thats going to cost intel and whooooole heap of cashola!

Seeing as they've proved it in japan already it can't be that much harder to prove the case in the US, mind you I expect Intel to put a much harder fight on their own turf.

Cheap Mod Wannabe · 28th Jun 2005, 12:42

This is a great start.... of something much bigger. But I do understand Intel. Since last summer I've only met one guy who would buy Intel over AMD. However he doesn't do gaming, nor video encoding, no big software thus he doesn't need a new PC, he's using INTEL CELERON 533MHz. =) However during that time I've built 2 AMD machines for my friends/family and seen about 8 friends buy AMD 64's... Consumers who know more than buying from Dell buy AMD. INtel's sales are very much limited to companies and hence they are trying in all ways to stay in the play area.

Da Dego · 28th Jun 2005, 14:04

Wil has a law degree!?

Go AMD...monopolistic practices ARE harmful, and I think AMD can win this if they're careful. On the other hand, antitrust are some of the most difficult laws to prove, and they will have a HUGE burden. If they win, it will also open up some government litigation, one can be assured. The FTC sharks love the smell of blood...

webbyman · 28th Jun 2005, 16:22

Go AMD kick intel's ass

, it's blatently been monopolising for years.

TTmodder · 28th Jun 2005, 16:25

if i was the owner of intel i'll say ****

monkeyville · 28th Jun 2005, 16:38

We watch and wait. Knowing these cases though they always seem to take a lifetime to finish so it might be for a while yet.

Haddy · 28th Jun 2005, 16:45

Im going to have to play devils advocate on this one. If manfactures dont want to use their chips thats up to them (even if they are taking bribes). If anything they should go after the computer makers for accepting the bribes. OMG big companies dont have morals?!?! Welcome to the business world AMD.

Da Dego · 28th Jun 2005, 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haddy

Im going to have to play devils advocate on this one. If manfactures dont want to use their chips thats up to them (even if they are taking bribes). If anything they should go after the computer makers for accepting the bribes. OMG big companies dont have morals?!?! Welcome to the business world AMD.

Eh, I agree with you to a point, Haddy. But as AMD mention in their open letter, with smaller or more companies, this could just be business practices. When you own 90% of market share, though, it becomes stifling. Would you like it if AMD just closed up shop? We owe them for bringing 64bit to desktops that actually has legacy, as well as a bunch of other innovations. How many other fledgelings that could have shown similar potential have already been eradicated by these business treatments?

The Clayton and Sherman acts specifically prevents tying arrangements and certain business quotas, of which some of these "business policies" qualify.

RTT · 28th Jun 2005, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Dego

Wil has a law degree!?

From Oxford, no less

Da Dego · 28th Jun 2005, 18:21

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Originally Posted by RTT

From Oxford, no less

AWESOME!

So does he have a REAL job?

(Sorry, Wil...not that BT isn't a real job!!!)

smoguzbenjamin · 28th Jun 2005, 18:48

Go AMD! All my mates have AMD processors, we know what we're talking about. AMDs are simply much better CPUs no questions down. However, I've got this feeling that Intel might bullsh*t their way out of this one. We're talking multi-million (billion?) dollar damages here!

It will be interesting to see how this one turns out.

CyberSol · 28th Jun 2005, 19:36

I'm rooting for AMD y0!

I wonder if the apple moving to intel, had any relation?

lets have a poll.

Go amd

Go Intel

Breach · 28th Jun 2005, 19:48

Sounds like they have a legitimate case, Intel has to be underhanded to sell thier crappy processors and AMD wont stand for it. I hope Intel goes down in flames in court.

woodshop · 28th Jun 2005, 20:04

"And the devil went down to georga, looking for a soul to steal".. << just seemed to some how fit.. strange fact being i'm rooting for AMD

28th Jun 2005, 10:18	#1
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28th Jun 2005, 10:24	#2
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28th Jun 2005, 10:37	#3
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28th Jun 2005, 10:47	#4
Highland3r I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 7,159	Don't Dell get v cheap cpu's from Intel? Think they basically priced AMD out of the equation... __________________ Prawn or not...?

28th Jun 2005, 11:02	#5
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28th Jun 2005, 11:29	#6
Darkedge Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 334	Good for AMD and the consumer - I hope they win. And of course I also hope someone screws Micheal Dell up the arse, and not in a good way.

28th Jun 2005, 12:21	#7
Gordy Evil Teddy Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bristol Posts: 2,485	If true thats going to cost intel and whooooole heap of cashola! Seeing as they've proved it in japan already it can't be that much harder to prove the case in the US, mind you I expect Intel to put a much harder fight on their own turf. __________________ modding.gordyhand.co.uk

28th Jun 2005, 12:42	#8
Cheap Mod Wannabe Ultramodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 1,215	This is a great start.... of something much bigger. But I do understand Intel. Since last summer I've only met one guy who would buy Intel over AMD. However he doesn't do gaming, nor video encoding, no big software thus he doesn't need a new PC, he's using INTEL CELERON 533MHz. =) However during that time I've built 2 AMD machines for my friends/family and seen about 8 friends buy AMD 64's... Consumers who know more than buying from Dell buy AMD. INtel's sales are very much limited to companies and hence they are trying in all ways to stay in the play area.

28th Jun 2005, 14:04	#9
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Wil has a law degree!? Go AMD...monopolistic practices ARE harmful, and I think AMD can win this if they're careful. On the other hand, antitrust are some of the most difficult laws to prove, and they will have a HUGE burden. If they win, it will also open up some government litigation, one can be assured. The FTC sharks love the smell of blood... __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

28th Jun 2005, 16:22	#10
webbyman Hax. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Uk Posts: 2,758	Go AMD kick intel's ass , it's blatently been monopolising for years.

28th Jun 2005, 16:38	#12
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28th Jun 2005, 16:45	#13
Haddy World Domination Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,821	Im going to have to play devils advocate on this one. If manfactures dont want to use their chips thats up to them (even if they are taking bribes). If anything they should go after the computer makers for accepting the bribes. OMG big companies dont have morals?!?! Welcome to the business world AMD. __________________ My post doesnt answer your question(s)? Well try this site. Amazing what you can find with a little effort.....

28th Jun 2005, 18:48	#17
smoguzbenjamin "That guy" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Electroworld Posts: 1,097	Go AMD! All my mates have AMD processors, we know what we're talking about. AMDs are simply much better CPUs no questions down. However, I've got this feeling that Intel might bullsh*t their way out of this one. We're talking multi-million (billion?) dollar damages here! It will be interesting to see how this one turns out. __________________ Read my blog! Party at your house!

28th Jun 2005, 19:36	#18
CyberSol 1337 Pants Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: On teh interweb USA Posts: 857	I'm rooting for AMD y0! I wonder if the apple moving to intel, had any relation? lets have a poll. Go amd Go Intel __________________ Survival Gear Last edited by CyberSol; 28th Jun 2005 at 19:47.

28th Jun 2005, 19:48	#19
Breach Supermodder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: WA Posts: 354	Sounds like they have a legitimate case, Intel has to be underhanded to sell thier crappy processors and AMD wont stand for it. I hope Intel goes down in flames in court. __________________ Project :: SSC (Super Sport Computer)

28th Jun 2005, 20:04	#20
woodshop UnSeenly Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Depths Of Hades Posts: 1,381	"And the devil went down to georga, looking for a soul to steal".. << just seemed to some how fit.. strange fact being i'm rooting for AMD