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WilHarris · 18th Aug 2005, 15:11

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200..._cooler/1.html

Fozzy · 18th Aug 2005, 16:35

i had higher hopes for the zalman. I bet if you lapped it you could get much lower temps

koola · 18th Aug 2005, 18:00

Didn't think the zalman could replace my wc system, but I wonder how loud it sounds on its maximum setting?

Hwulex · 18th Aug 2005, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fozzy

i had higher hopes for the zalman. I bet if you lapped it you could get much lower temps

Same. I've been waiting for this thing to become available (retail) for aaaages and now I'm a little unsure as what to buy.

Maybe I'll stick to the CNPS7000B?

Cheap Mod Wannabe · 18th Aug 2005, 18:30

We can always ducktape another fan to the other side of Zalman heatsink surpassing our expectations and making temps a lot lower.... mhmmmm looower...

Fr4nk · 18th Aug 2005, 18:30

I've got the Vapo mirco on a 3800 X2 and it stays at a nice 38C idle 45CLoad @2.3Ghz but it is not the nicest thing to look at

overwise its a great cooler

Da Dego · 18th Aug 2005, 18:32

Well, that was a letdown.

Think I'll be sticking with my CU7000.

jackjr · 18th Aug 2005, 19:06

That's a bit disappointing (the Zalman). I was really looking forward to the release of this and was extremely excited to see the difference in temp.. What a bummer..

PA!N · 18th Aug 2005, 19:32

Christ, I'd fear that the Zalman cooler (what ever they say) would break of and tear my mobo a part during ruff transportation to LAN's...

I'd guess it'll hold under normal circumstances but I sometimes carry my pc
on a "wheelbarrow" to lokal LAN's...
(never try this at home

I almost wrecked my crappy old 19" monitor...)

Neo40k · 18th Aug 2005, 20:59

the asetek design is rather neat even though its #s are low (well high!!)
but why would they make it swivel??? it adds another thermal break.

the Zalman looks wicked and appeas to work well.... shame on them for not have a flat bottom though.

Shadowed_fury · 18th Aug 2005, 21:38

Bah, Thats a shame, I was gonna look into that Zalman...

blackerthanblack · 18th Aug 2005, 22:53

Just a thought but did you try the Asetek in another orientation, like facing the exhaust fan, or was it an open case test. I know with some tower coolers this can make a difference in temps.

acidfire · 18th Aug 2005, 22:54

I'd have to agree its fairly disappointing to see that the Zalman wasn't surfaced properly. I just picked up a pair of cu700's and a cu7700 for my new system
(x2 4400, a8n sli premium, 2x asus 7800 gtx)

and the surfaces were damn near perfect, so this is a let down. Maybe it was just a bad unit? Oh well, should be interesting to see when they release the 120mm version

Firefox90 · 18th Aug 2005, 23:29

Meh...I was going to finally upgrade my stock cooling to that Zalman, but it doesn't look that impressive. Do I have uber stock cooling or what? This is what is holding me back.

Pookeyhead · 19th Aug 2005, 01:44

I don't care if they're good or not... they look completely retarded , and the weight MUST put a great deal of stress on the mobo/socket. Just stupid.... for God sake, just water cool your rig if you're THAT bothered about having lower temps!

I'd like a review that tests how many times you can actually move your PC without fracturing the connection between your socket and MoBo with one of these behemoths attached to it.

The_Pope · 19th Aug 2005, 02:47

I agree that the Zalman could've been lapped for theoretically better performance - I suggested it in the Editing process - however, since this is how the sample was provided, this is also how thousands of people will no doubt install it, so the results reflect that.

For the few enthusiasts like you & me, we'd lap that fella nice & smooth, and I'd guess it would knock a couple of degree off perhaps...

Firefox90: what CPU do you have mate? It's either not very fast, or you have some hefty air-con: MB temps normally start around 30C, with CPUs around 35C. The fact your mobo temp says 20C strikes me as unusual.

Oh, and for the record in case people aren't aware of such things, CPUs are commonly rated to run as high as 60C, 70C or even more. Lower daily operating temps are commonly believed to lead to a longer life, but we're talking 5 years over 4 years etc.

The good thing about the Zalman is that you can set it to near-silent and still only hit 51C under load (and we're talking an FX-55 here!). Yes, the stock cooler is 54C, but that's quite noise in comparison. If you were to set the noise levels the same (because maybe you play games with headphones) the Zalman is 40C vs 54C - quite a difference.

Marquee · 19th Aug 2005, 05:14

Oh my god the huge. One day a heatsink will be as big as a shuttle PC.LMFAO
Why can't these compays man a jump from heatsink to water cooling.

The_Pope · 19th Aug 2005, 05:17

Cost, reliability, Technical Support... there are many reasons, though there are several off the shelf systems - we've all be discussing the Zalman, but Asetek make the excellent WaterChill range.

Ghys · 19th Aug 2005, 05:53

I dont really see what's wrong with these temperatures.... 40C in full load is actualy really good , how can you expect more from aircooling when using such a powerful processor?

I got a CNSP7700Cu, wich is an excellent heatsink , and my prescott 2.8@3.3Ghz is at 40°C in idle with the case opened. Im extremely satisfied , my Intel box could only keep it at 54°C in idle. (0_0)

jackpotcoast · 19th Aug 2005, 06:26

After reading the review, it almost seemed rushed to me. It was like there was a big hurry to get it done, and not go through the normal motions...imo. Maybe they couldve showed the lapped temps and the non lapped temps. How many fans were in the case? As was mentioned before, swiveling the Asetek cooler to another direction. If the one of the coolers actually brought down case temps, that sort of thing. All imo though, you guys are the pros at doin this.

18th Aug 2005, 15:11	#1
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18th Aug 2005, 18:00	#3
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18th Aug 2005, 18:30	#6
Fr4nk Tyrannosaurus Alan ! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Uk, Essex Posts: 2,367	I've got the Vapo mirco on a 3800 X2 and it stays at a nice 38C idle 45CLoad @2.3Ghz but it is not the nicest thing to look at overwise its a great cooler __________________ {Macbook Pro + Dell 2407 WFP - Canon 3000V + Canon 350D + BG-E3 + Sigma 10-20mm + 50mm f1.8 + kit 28-90mm EF - Rolleiflex 2.8 TLR} *Flickr ~Flickriver ^ My Behance Art Folio

18th Aug 2005, 18:32	#7
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Well, that was a letdown. Think I'll be sticking with my CU7000. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

18th Aug 2005, 18:30	#5
Cheap Mod Wannabe Ultramodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 1,215	We can always ducktape another fan to the other side of Zalman heatsink surpassing our expectations and making temps a lot lower.... mhmmmm looower...

18th Aug 2005, 19:06	#8
jackjr Minimodder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northwestern PA, USA Posts: 22	That's a bit disappointing (the Zalman). I was really looking forward to the release of this and was extremely excited to see the difference in temp.. What a bummer.. __________________ Chieftec Full Tower Dragon, MSI PT880 Neo, P4 3.2 Ghz, 1.5 GB Corsair DDR400, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB DDR, Creative Labs Audigy2, 2x SATA 80 GB IBM Deskstar, 1 WD 160 GB, WD 160 GB external, 1 Seagate 250 GB, Benq 12x Dual DVD/RW, Benq 16x DVDRom, Raidmax 650 Aluminum Dual fan PSU.

18th Aug 2005, 20:59	#10
Neo40k Modder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 68	the asetek design is rather neat even though its #s are low (well high!!) but why would they make it swivel??? it adds another thermal break. the Zalman looks wicked and appeas to work well.... shame on them for not have a flat bottom though. __________________ Technology Meltdown

18th Aug 2005, 21:38	#11
Shadowed_fury Natural Born Chaos Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Telford Posts: 7,133	Bah, Thats a shame, I was gonna look into that Zalman... __________________ Steam: kev_fury New Frag Video - Gigabyte EP43-DS3L - E8200 - XFX 4870 1GB - 4GB Kingston - - Steel Series 7.1s - Logitech G11 - Razer Diamondback 3G - 2209WA -

18th Aug 2005, 22:53	#12
blackerthanblack Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Fife Posts: 209	Just a thought but did you try the Asetek in another orientation, like facing the exhaust fan, or was it an open case test. I know with some tower coolers this can make a difference in temps. __________________ There is so a spoon

18th Aug 2005, 22:54	#13
acidfire Supermodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 254	I'd have to agree its fairly disappointing to see that the Zalman wasn't surfaced properly. I just picked up a pair of cu700's and a cu7700 for my new system (x2 4400, a8n sli premium, 2x asus 7800 gtx) and the surfaces were damn near perfect, so this is a let down. Maybe it was just a bad unit? Oh well, should be interesting to see when they release the 120mm version __________________ "And when he gets to heaven, To St. Peter he will tell; One more soldier reporting sir, I served my time in hell. "

18th Aug 2005, 23:29	#14
Firefox90 Modder Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 56	Meh...I was going to finally upgrade my stock cooling to that Zalman, but it doesn't look that impressive. Do I have uber stock cooling or what? This is what is holding me back.

19th Aug 2005, 01:44	#15
Pookeyhead It's Big, and It's Clever Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Blackpool Posts: 4,934	I don't care if they're good or not... they look completely retarded , and the weight MUST put a great deal of stress on the mobo/socket. Just stupid.... for God sake, just water cool your rig if you're THAT bothered about having lower temps! I'd like a review that tests how many times you can actually move your PC without fracturing the connection between your socket and MoBo with one of these behemoths attached to it. __________________ Intel i7 920 @ 3.8GHz ¦¦ Asus P6T Deluxe ¦¦ 6Gb Corsair Dominator C8 ¦¦ XFX GTX295 ¦¦ 2x 1Tb Samsung F1 ¦¦ 1x Seagate 7200.11 1.5Tb ¦¦ Gigabyte Odin 800W PSU ¦¦ Dell 2405FPW.

19th Aug 2005, 02:47	#16
The_Pope Geoff Richards Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,089	I agree that the Zalman could've been lapped for theoretically better performance - I suggested it in the Editing process - however, since this is how the sample was provided, this is also how thousands of people will no doubt install it, so the results reflect that. For the few enthusiasts like you & me, we'd lap that fella nice & smooth, and I'd guess it would knock a couple of degree off perhaps... Firefox90: what CPU do you have mate? It's either not very fast, or you have some hefty air-con: MB temps normally start around 30C, with CPUs around 35C. The fact your mobo temp says 20C strikes me as unusual. Oh, and for the record in case people aren't aware of such things, CPUs are commonly rated to run as high as 60C, 70C or even more. Lower daily operating temps are commonly believed to lead to a longer life, but we're talking 5 years over 4 years etc. The good thing about the Zalman is that you can set it to near-silent and still only hit 51C under load (and we're talking an FX-55 here!). Yes, the stock cooler is 54C, but that's quite noise in comparison. If you were to set the noise levels the same (because maybe you play games with headphones) the Zalman is 40C vs 54C - quite a difference.

19th Aug 2005, 05:14	#17
Marquee Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 404	Oh my god the huge. One day a heatsink will be as big as a shuttle PC.LMFAO Why can't these compays man a jump from heatsink to water cooling. __________________ Project Log: Knight Rider CWC

19th Aug 2005, 05:17	#18
The_Pope Geoff Richards Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,089	Cost, reliability, Technical Support... there are many reasons, though there are several off the shelf systems - we've all be discussing the Zalman, but Asetek make the excellent WaterChill range.

19th Aug 2005, 05:53	#19
Ghys DUHHHH Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,585	I dont really see what's wrong with these temperatures.... 40C in full load is actualy really good , how can you expect more from aircooling when using such a powerful processor? I got a CNSP7700Cu, wich is an excellent heatsink , and my prescott 2.8@3.3Ghz is at 40°C in idle with the case opened. Im extremely satisfied , my Intel box could only keep it at 54°C in idle. (0_0)

19th Aug 2005, 06:26	#20
jackpotcoast What's a Dremel? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wyoming Posts: 6	After reading the review, it almost seemed rushed to me. It was like there was a big hurry to get it done, and not go through the normal motions...imo. Maybe they couldve showed the lapped temps and the non lapped temps. How many fans were in the case? As was mentioned before, swiveling the Asetek cooler to another direction. If the one of the coolers actually brought down case temps, that sort of thing. All imo though, you guys are the pros at doin this.