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Gaming Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 12 Apr 2008.

  1. Guest-16

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    You contradict yourself - you harp on about realism then claim no damage isn't a factor? You can't have it both ways - it can't be on "the most powerful console ever" yet offer no destruction. There's MORE than enough Cell power there for physics.

    You can't rate a game on graphics alone, yet demand it for gameplay, otherwise the Wii would not be the most popular console.

    It is a simulator, yes, but its a tech demo. The Fanboys will love it (and clearly do ;) ;)) but it's DMC4 all over again.
     
  2. themax

    themax What's a Dremel?

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    I wish people would stop acting like Prologue is some new PS3 scheme. Look at the PS2 library. They have this nifty game called GT4: Plogue that sold quite well before the official GT4 released. Put your Sony conspiracies aside and blame the fans for the Prologue release, not Sony or Polyphony Digital. If the first one wasn't so successful you probably wouldn't see this one released.

    And another thing. THERE IS A DEMO. It's on the Japanese PSN. Prologue and the demo are not the same (and I am not talking about GT:HD).
     
  3. kempez

    kempez modding again!

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    I think a lot of ordinary gamers love it as well as as "fanboys". I prefer Forza overall, but it's a good crack :)
     
  4. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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    I love the GT series (I bought a PS2 twice just for the series!) and I'll buy a PS3 when GT5 comes out, but I'm not paying for a tech demo--albeit one that's pretty packed with content. It was the same for me with GT4 Prologue too - I sold my PS2 after finishing GT3 and then bought a PSTwo to play GT4 when it came out. This time around I kept hold of the console though.
     
  5. themax

    themax What's a Dremel?

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    On another note. I agree with the review. A 7 is pretty good score for what is only a portion of the upcoming completed game. If it scored to high I honestly wouldn't believe it and wouldn't accept it. As long Polyphony Digital keeps on pace and refines what we see already in GT5:prologue it should play much better than Prologue. The damage mechanics are coming in a patch hopefully this fall (but still, can't rate it based on what is due out) and GT5 Full should ship with Damage. One thing I partially disagree with is comparing it next to Forza. Compared to Forza the game will NEVER be as complete or as good because it never was at the time it shipped. Forza is a fully fleshed game completed with over a year of DLC and patches. On the flip side, I think it's good that the game in this form is so readily compared against Forza 2 (given it's overwhelming and obvious cons as an unfinished game) because it means the devs are on the right track if it creates discussion on the differences in the two so much.
     
  6. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

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    :hehe:
     
  7. Mo_

    Mo_ Did this world come by chance?

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    any dates for the final release? :wallbash:
     
  8. Bauul

    Bauul Sir Bongaminge

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    7 seems pretty high for charging £20 for a partially completed tech demo. I've played GT a few times and just find the lack of damage model removes it so far from reality it feels totally void and stale. How can it be a simulation when your cars are invincible? Simply on those two points it shold get scored down. And no matter how people wrap it up, £20 for a tech demo is bloody cheeky.
     
  9. Kahuna513

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    I personally think Polyphony have done a top notch job, but I'm not going to buy this. I've been a fan of the series since the days of 937bhp purple race modded R33s, and still play GT4 on my PS3. Hell, I even got a Japanese logon for the PSNetwork called "Mr Sparkle" so I could download the Prologue demo, but having played the full GT5:prologue myself, I'm just going to wait for the full title - mainly because of the lack of tracks.
    Saying that though, I didn't get GT4:prologue either.
     
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    lewchenko Minimodder

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    I thought the review was fair and balanced.
    I bought this game for £18 and its my first experience of the Gran Turismo brand of racers. Whilst the graphics are stunning, Im afraid the actual gameplay is kinda boring after a while.

    The lack of damage does impact gameplay, and reduces your incentive to drive like a real car driver. One of the tracks I played was painfully dull, and simple in comparison to the others.

    In hindsight Im not sure I would want to buy it again if I had a choice, and I wont be buying GT5 proper. But I do understand why some people love this game. Coming from a 360, I have to say the visuals eclipse anything Ive seen on the 360.
     
  12. Jojii

    Jojii hardware freak

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    you can graduate college in america just getting a 7/10
     
  13. talladega

    talladega I'm Squidward

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    be informed before making false statements.

    In an interview a very short time ago (on IGN and other sites I think) it was stated they will be adding damage to Prologue as soon as fall. Where did you get your info that they will make you pay for extra cars? Im not sure if this was specifically stated or it was impliead or whatever but Polyphony said they hate making customers pay for extra content. So maye thats why we get Prologue. It gives them extra money which in turn gives us extra content for free.
     
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    You can graduate in England if you get 70% too - hell, I think you can graduate anywhere with that. It's a respectable mark.
     
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    Ye I'm coming around to a 7, although still bordering on an 8 :p

    Me you understand, not the game ;)
     
  16. Shadow_101

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    little bit disappointed that the lack of damage has been made such a big deal. If you want the car to look like piece of ****, buy one of the messing around racing games. The GT series is more about learning racing lines, controlling your speed and skill. You want to ram cars? Play GTA.
     
  17. themax

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    Shadow 101 the reasoning behind damage is that, while GT as a racing sim has always been about the driving skill, applicable damage due to poor driving also contributes to the "racing sim" tagline. Although GT penalizes you enough for poor driving (try winning a race by bouncing off cars in a GT game) damage to a car also affects the way it drives and handles. I can't remember if you did suffer tire damage (i'm pretty sure) from constant driving nothing else ever really happens to the car.

    That aside, GT has already done well without car damage for 4 iterations so this sudden desire for car damage and expecting a drop in score without it to me is without merit. I'de rather they stick to what works, than make a worse game due to car damage rendering the game unplayable. And assuming most of us here aren't professional racers I don't see myself having fun everytime I get put out of a race due to a slip up in a tight turn in GT.
     
  18. Amon

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    Bit-tech's claim that Forza Motorsport 2's vehicle models are on par with Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, I found, was an utter joke.:rolleyes: Forza's relative proportions of vehicle assets are completely off the ground. For example, the R32 GT-R's headlights are enormously oversized and the car's oversized width should be as obvious as a freight train ploughing through your house. A motoring aficionado would be driven to insanity by the off-the-wall inaccuracies in enthusiast motoring that Forza is full to the brim with; which is why the game can never be taken as a serious, mature representation of spirited motoring.
    The Gran Turismo franchise has always been marketed as a driving simulator, not a racing simulator. They are two extremely different principles for enthusiast driving games.
    Suzuka has one really-not-that-technical hairpin. The track, as a whole, however, is much more difficult, especially the Spoon Curve and 130R.
     
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  19. mrplow

    mrplow obey the fist!!

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    Heh you guys beat me to it... it's a First on a lot of degree courses...

    Anyway it's good that lots of people are willing to pay to beta test the game for the rest of us :)
    Thanks guys!
     
  20. Neogumbercules

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    I probably won't buy this but I'm definitely gonna buy the full game whenever the heck it comes out. I hope they have a greater variety of American cars this time around. We got 450 different versions of Skylines in GT4 and for American cars we got like...'vettes, Mustangs, some classic muscle and a pick-up truck or something. Maybe I wanna drive a Ford Escort? Maybe I want to take an Astro Van for a spin around Laguna?! Ever think of that, Polyphony? Might say those cars are boring, but there are A LOT of boring Euro and Japanese cars in the past GT games. Just give me some more damn American production cars that aren't flagships like GTO or Mustang. Sure, they might suck! But just give me the option!
     
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