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News Quebec law tramples English-only subtitles

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 3 Apr 2009.

  1. Mcmonopoly

    Mcmonopoly What now?!

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    About the war, yes we lost, but through debate (read begging-HA) we were able to keep what we have now in terms of territory.

    As far as French only, In no way is there any law or officer that will fine you/stop you/detain you if you can't speak French?!?! WTF is that!! I mean the people who told you that either lied or were trying to discourage you to go to Quebec...

    As someone pointed out above, in France if you look like an American and try and talk to them in english, 99% of the time they will tell you off literally, even more so since the US accused the French of not accepting to comply with the US demands when it came time to go in the middle east.... So basically the US citizen brought that upon themselves....The French/we are socialist/pacifist countries not bent toward attacking other countries.

    Generally if you try and speak in english in say Montreal, there's @ 80%+ chance you will get an answer in english, and with a smile...
     
  2. Mcmonopoly

    Mcmonopoly What now?!

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    Nicely put also, also again I just want to point out that in doing what the government is doing, it's main goal are to attain/keep what it considers "ideals", like protecting our linguistic heritage and whatnot, but again the government here is what it is, and as hard as we'd like it to become better, it seems that we're in a rut...

    I mean I replied to this thread, only because people were calling us out and putting us down because they think that for a government to try and retain a fickle (in there own eyes, mind you) thing like our linguistic heritage. That's as dumb as picking on someone because their skin is of different color... I was raised in a french household, in a french neighborhood, went to french school and college, but today I don't watch TV in french at all, no radio at all, my work is done at 75% in english and only read on great English websites like this one...so this is not even coming from someone who is afraid of being assimilated....only frustrated to be categorized by outsiders that saw that our government passed a law that makes sure that if a game has a french version somewhere in the world, that we get it....

    LOL, yeah WMDs in Alberta...
     
  3. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    No way, dude!
    The only thing that is somewhat remotely close to this fakery, is that the government has some agent (going out when there is a complaint about a business related to this note), which verifies that all signs in English must have French version on top and the English one must be smaller in size. This includes company names. And that restaurants menu are available in French and English (either 2 different versions, or one but follows the signs criteria).

    Now you must ask react and say "Buisness names in French as well!", Well yes... but they are workarounds.
    - Company name can be classified as a persons/family name so that is ignored.
    - Company name replaces the apostrophe at the end of their name with an image (i.e: restaurant named "Tom's" to "Tom (red pepper picture as superscript) s" and the restaurant name is registered as Toms... )
    - Or add a french word at the begging... like in Canad we have a famous coffee place called "Second Cup"... but in Quebec it's names "Les cafes Second Cup", where "Les cafes" is put in black font color behind a dark brown background, on top and small. That works too.
     
  4. Ta10n

    Ta10n What's a Dremel?

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    Yeah, I would hate to be in the position of any Quebec government. Half the people want to leave Canada, half want to stay in. Half the people want to be really protectionist about their culture, half are just riding the wave and seeing where it ends up. No matter what happens may the poutine live on forever!

    I can see where you're coming from with being labled as outsiders and generally picked on. I kind of had a similar, but certainly not as intense experience when I spent some time growing up in the states. You say you're Canadian and everyone looks at you as though they're trying to locate the hunting spears and igloo making tools on your person. Sorry guys, they're in my other parka.....

    The labeling kind of reminds me of the whole "American's are stupid" deal. All American's aren't stupid, but most of them who happen to be publicized in any way are.

    On an ending note, whoever keeps dicking up the political decisions should wear a big red hat, so we can all concentrate our collective verbal and psycological flak in their direction.

    That is all
     
  5. mikeuk2004

    mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool!

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    Wow, i didnt realise there where so many canadians reading bit-tech until i read this thread :) I seen afew about bout but not this many. Nice to see you all :)
     
  6. Mcmonopoly

    Mcmonopoly What now?!

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    Yeah This place's Great to read up on the latest, you know in between times I shovel the driveway, and find me some beavers(~you know what kind~)...eh!
     
  7. Mcmonopoly

    Mcmonopoly What now?!

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    LMFAO-Thank you very much for that one Sir..!!
     
  8. talladega

    talladega I'm Squidward

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    Good to know that I've been told wrong then. :)

    What are you talking aboot?
     
  9. lp1988

    lp1988 Minimodder

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    point taken
     
  10. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    Only the French..:D

    Hope that they don't try to become their country like Paris tried in the past.
     
  11. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    as quoted above, Nothing stoping them from selling Both when thay come out (but likey thay only keep 1 copy in at an time to stay within the law, as it not sell well) and nothing from stoping them form selling english untill french one comes out, then thay must Stock French copy as well

    alot of sites are reporting that
     
  12. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    Well so, just hurts Quebec. Already at the previous referendum to separate Quebec, it killed a lot of investors and moved companies away from Quebec. Still no recovered today. This is how I saw it. Separating Quebec will lead to extreme complications for everyone, including government, tax payers and businesses. How about setting laws set by Canada.. will there be a lack of laws until the government settles. It might be done quickly and miss explained). Also, they'll need to be recognized world wide.. and using Canadian currency, as they wanted does not help the cause at all, also shows that they don't have their own economy (as they use the Canadian currency).

    But as explained on CBC report by experts (I am not sure if they are right or wrong.. just pointing that out that possibility), is that even if at the next referendum, Quebec separate itself. Then what? (as they explained) Well it wont' happen. Because it require the Canada's Governor General approval, which she won't give it. Go higher up you say. Ok... so a visit to the King and Queen of England, which for sure will say no, especially that they are more conservative.

    I imagine they put the case into the supreme court but which one... England or Canada's? or the U.N's...

    It's a very complicated mater, which I think will scare a lot of people away from Quebec if this happens. The problem is currently the separatist don't really have a solid plan set that I am personally aware off, to know how they will manage Quebec. All I see, is that once they separate... their is not much substance.
     
  13. Otto69

    Otto69 What's a Dremel?

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    Je m'appel Jonathan. Mon crayon est large et jaune.

    Je voudrais le Pernod, avec de l'eau.
     
  14. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    Congratulation, you know how to through meaningless sentences in French. You want a trophy?
     
  15. Marc5002

    Marc5002 What's a Dremel?

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    I'm French of Quebec : I Do Like both Gaming in French and english it about same for me
    But the way to do force me to play with French subtitle is a Crime i belive It Against Liberty of Thinking
    I'l guess if some game won't sell in Ebgames/Futureshop/BestBuy Does of that In Part of Quebec

    Then il just Travel to Ontario and buy my game there But Il fell sad to those who can't reach Ontario to get it
    What will be of movie ? they are still movie Without French Substile Legally Rent In Quebec
    Example Rock n Rolla (Was english only) but the Title on the case Said Roc & Escroc (French meaning of rock n rolla)
    But I can tell you they was no FRENCH in that movie : I liked the movie

    The Fact that Example if a Game As Great as Fallout 3 was to Come out Without French Subtitles and there for be ban in quebec
    And if on top of that they would refuse us to sell us the English Version in Ontario To Quebec people then id call that a The most Stupid Law Every since LAW C-61 Who almost entered in canada and was the most Feared of all LAW

    And who Give a damn About Paris I don't give a damn on my Cousin of France they speak Weird : And Act Weird that all they are
    It possible we Could Seperate of Canada but With Bad Republic as Jean Charest and Pauline marois Forgive this
    Seperate of canada they Would do Twice the mistake and Ruin our Great Country. Yes We give Lot of money to Federal
    In a Sort of fiscal imbalance But We are Good To have them For now I guess we have lot of thing Canada Can Benefice us tough

    That What I ad to say : tough it would be nice for those who refuse to learn english to be able to understand a Great story They Better not stop us to get the game in english and to ban certain game or il have to buy off ebay or in ontario i want my game that all it is
     
  16. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    And the moral of the story is:

    Politicians in Quebec are morons like everywhere else in the world.
     
  17. lp1988

    lp1988 Minimodder

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    well said..
     
  18. Ironmack FC

    Ironmack FC What's a Dremel?

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    Hey! What are you guys talk about? Languages? english and french??? I see all comments, I also see what people say about our Belle Provience, I find this silly what they say about Quebec, They dont know nothing in Quebec! PERIOD! I am SCOTSMAN! i dont say I am englishman or I am Frenchman, I TELL YOU I am Scotsman! who live in Quebec and speaking English! and still speak french too!, but MOST POINT about this Subtitled, THIS GREAT for Deaf people or hard of hearing like you when you get old OLD and cant hear! so Subtitled will help us to understand, I am Sure there millions of deaf people across North America, not just Quebec! this would be nice for everybody to have subtitle for Deaf people and hard of hearing... I dont care what you talk about Quebec! We already know about Ontario, and Western Canada, and Altantic, I am not going say something about them, we already know how dull out there in ontario! Quebec is Beautiful and have two languages cultures! Especially Quebec GOT HOTTEST BABES than other provience LOL! Whatever!!! Vive Le Quebec!
     
  19. Otto69

    Otto69 What's a Dremel?

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    Actually those are quotes from the movie "Gotcha!" :)
     
  20. n3mo

    n3mo What's a Dremel?

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    So what you are saying is "we look like bunch of retarded hicks, but really it's exactly like other kind of retarded hicks" Nice.

    Well, I don't know how the situation really is there (I've been in Quebec a few times but never for more than two days), but from the side view this really sounds dumb.
     
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