If my guess were to say, be somewhat right, then the GTX460 will outperform the HD5770, the HD5830 isn't really that powerful anyways. If Nvidia were smart they'd price this right by the HD5830's price point and then fill in that gap, the HD5830 was dissapointingly bad, their goal has to be at least GTX275 performance, which shouldn't be that hard, since the GF100 full chips(well almost full, they haven't gotten 512SPs yet) do about 10% more than the HD5870. Now assuming that drivers might increase that margin a bit, I could say that if they released that GTX460 at the price point of the HD5830 and have the performance equal or even a few frames more and we have a winner. Of course there's the heat issue, but seeing that it's half the size, it should be about 75% as hot/power consuming?
I dont know why I'm really disappointed with Nvidia on this one. The built up the hype towards the ultimate gaming GPU and then when it comes out it's essentially a rendering machine. Its like Nvidia wanted us to trust them with our money to deliver on performance, and then just slapped us in the face for being so foolish. To be honest the 9600GT I bought for £50 last year puts the back to buck of the more recent cards to shame. I know its two generations old but Nvidia's lost the plot with Fermi. I dont think this 460 can deliver and the 400 series will be a flop
Right; wheres he gone. Looking for some examples of thread bating and he has vanished *poof*. Deleted nada nothing only quotes remain. Banned and burnt by the look things. Anyone want to own up? Apologies for thread ressurrection.
Your right I had noticed he had gone, He didn't get anyone else banned though. Did he get banned ??? Maybe forums pay him to be a agent provocature when the forum gets a bit slow ???
any new info on the release date of the 460? right now i can get a 465 for $250 out the door, and the cheapest (and less deirable fan to me) 5850 is hitting me at $285. not sure what the 460 will bring to the table, but if it releases in the next week or two i can hold out to see what it does to the market. otherwise, because of the price actually being better for the fermi, i'm leaning towards that. price performance is fairly even, still have heat and power deficiencies to the 5850 though. what to do what to do.
I must differ, the 470 is pulling away from the 5850 with the latest drivers. At launch you'd have a point but purely on #performance# it has the 5850 licked. The new 460 looks like a muvh better 'product' than the 465, 470 or 480. I dont understand the general air of griefing. Plus its a really short card.
The 5770 is a wet fart of a card. It can barely reach the 4870. Theres a massive void between the 5700 and the 5850, with the 5830 a desperately gimped product. Uses more power than the next card above it. Rich pickings for someone there.
The 465 might work if it was cheaper, but that won't happen. The 460 hopefully will fill the gap and if it does trump the HD5770 and approaches the HD5830, then Ati might have something to worry about.
not really no, ATI produces far cheaper than nvidia so ATI should be able to match Nvidia regardless of the price. on top of that the series has been a disappointment so far, so why should the 460 be anny diffrent
he didnt like HL2 so he might be lol. the thing with ATi is that they cant always drop the price - the margin they are making is insane - far more than nvidia can hope to make.
The 460 is touted as the card that's going to better the 5830 ...Ati's least liked, least impressive, least well priced card of this generation... pyrrhic victory pertetré? The fact is that the 58xx series has bettered fermi at each performance point versus price. As others have said above, it's widely believed to be the case that Ati have veritable acres of space to maneuver on price... not least because Ati have been raking it in between October '09 to March '10! And let's not forget, Ati's 58xx series came out in October '09; condemned Nvidia's 2xx to the history books and bettered Fermi: despite Fermi having an extra 6 months gestation. Anyone thinking that the 460 is suddenly going to wrest this round back in favour of Nvidia is either on Nvidia's payroll, on the happy pills or both!
