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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Arcadiu, 1 May 2011.

  1. Arcadiu

    Arcadiu What's a Dremel?

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    This is just a thread wondering if these parts fit/work well and do the best they can within my £700 strict budget.

    CPU
    Intel Core i5 2500, Socket 1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad Core, 3.3GHz, GPU 850Mhz, 6MB Cache, 95W, Retail

    MOBO
    Gigabyte GA-H67MA-UD2H-B3, Intel H67, S1155, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 1333, SATA 6Gb/s, RAID, mATX, VGA

    RAM
    4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3 Classic, DDR3 PC3-10666 (1333) Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.50V

    HDD
    1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9ms, NCQ

    Optical Drive
    Sony AD-5260S-0B 24x DVD±R, 12xDVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RWx6 SATA, Black, OEM

    Case
    Antec 100 One Hundred, Black Midi Tower Gaming Case w/o PSU

    PSU
    530W Be Quiet BN106 Pure Power L7, 80 PLUS, SLI/CrossFire, 120mm Fan, Dual Rail, ATX12V v2.3

    GPU
    1GB XFX HD 5870, PCI-E 2.1 (x16), 4800MHz GDDR5, GPU 850MHz, 1600 Cores, DP, HDMI, 2 x DL DVI-I

    NOTE:I still need to find a suitable monitor, around 20"-22" costing around £120, nothing ridiculous like 140 or 150. All suggestions welcome. This computer will primarily be a gaming computer if that helps.

    What I also saw is that on a website, the fps between the i5 2400 and the i5 2500 were minimal, only 3 or 4fps at max and the i5 2400 costs 15 quid cheaper.

    Would I be stupid to get the i5 2500 instead of saving 15 quid and only losing a couple of fps?

    All comments on other parts in this system are welcome. If you recommend something better, please make sure it will be a suitable price. Thanks.

    Thanks for all comments.
     
  2. murraynt

    murraynt Modder

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    How much are you paying for the parts? especially the 5870.
     
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  3. Arcadiu

    Arcadiu What's a Dremel?

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    CPU - £157
    MOBO - £95
    RAM - £37
    HDD - £40
    Case - £42
    PSU - £45
    Optical - £15
    GPU - £150
     
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    Marine-RX179 What's a Dremel?

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    Agree with above.

    Change the CPU from 2500 to 2500K, and motherboard with H67 to P67 Rev3. No reason at all to go H67 since you got a dedicated graphic card.

    As for the XFX 5870, there's been reports of its custom cooler making an annoying whine (not loud fan noise). If you look around, you can find 6950 1GB and GTX560 Ti that are faster than 5870 out of the box and has much more overclocking headroom for around £165-£180, and with free games as well. This following for example:
    6950 1GB
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=1752&sortby=priceAsc
    GTX560 Ti:
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1914&subid=1341&sortby=priceAsc

    For optical-drive I would suggest going LG rather than Sony, as there's been many cases of compatability issue with Sony's drives in the pass.
     
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  7. Arcadiu

    Arcadiu What's a Dremel?

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    Why should I get the 2500k? I do not plan on overclocking. Too risky IMO on a first and new rig.

    Thanks for all the comments, will change the mobo and the optical drive.

    I always love free things, only thing is I don't like the price. However since it is faster yes I will check it out.

    Thanks for all feedback.

    In relation to my question with the CPU, since I won't be overclocking, isn't the i5 2400 better value for money compared to the i5 2500?
     
  8. thetrashcanman

    thetrashcanman Angel headed hipsters

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    +1 for the changes murraynt said, as others have said, no point going with a h67, with on board graphics when your using a dedicated graphics card, with a 2500k and p67 board your computer will fly :D
     
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  9. murraynt

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    There is a switch on the Asus board that will overclock its self to about 4.5 ghz.
    Even if you go into the bios its only a matter of typing in 43 to get a 4.3GHZ overclock.
    It's pretty much fool proof and for only the price of a bag of chips.

    Now getting above 4.6 will require more voltage and to hit 5 will need more tinkering.

    A 2500K can Turbo boost further as well AFIK
     
  10. Arcadiu

    Arcadiu What's a Dremel?

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    Would I not need to buy a cpu cooler to overclock?
     
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    murraynt Modder

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    you could add a coolermaster 212 hyper + if you wish for 15 pounds but you should still be able to get some extra speed with the stock cooler.
     
  12. Arcadiu

    Arcadiu What's a Dremel?

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    Does a separate cooler come with thermal paste?
     
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    murraynt Modder

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    Not all of them but that one will.
     
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    Arcadiu What's a Dremel?

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    I'll just do a quick tally up of how much that will cost me paying for a 2500k and the cooler bundled with the monitor and the gpu.

    Thanks a lot for all your comments and help.
     
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    Arcadiu What's a Dremel?

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    Haha oh ye. Would be stupid to miss something like that.

    This is my 'new and improved' list of parts.

    CPU
    Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, 1155, Sdy Bridge, QuadCore, 3.3GHz, GPU 850Mhz, 6MB Cache, 95W, Retail

    MOBO
    Asus P8P67-M Rev3, Intel P67 Express, S1155, PCI-E, 2.0 x16, DDR3 2133 / 2200, SATA 6Gb/s, RAID MATX

    RAM
    4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3 Classic, DDR3 PC3-10666 (1333) Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.50V

    HDD
    1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9ms, NCQ

    Optical Drive
    LG GH22NS50 22x DVD±R, 16xDVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RWx6 ,12xRAM SATA, Black, OEM

    Case
    Antec 100 One Hundred, Black Midi Tower Gaming Case w/o PSU

    PSU
    530W Be Quiet BN106 Pure Power L7, 80 PLUS, SLI/CrossFire, 120mm Fan, Dual Rail, ATX12V v2.3

    Cooler
    Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus, 4 Heat Pipes, with 120mm Quiet Fan LGA775/1155/1156/1366/AM2/AM2+/AM3

    Monitor
    21.5" BenQ E2220HD, Black, Widescreen, 5ms, 1920x1080, 1000:1, 300cd/m²

    GPU
    ATI Radeon 6950 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE Games Pack

    As much as this is a nice looking computer, it costs in total £750.

    The main money sinks are the overclocking path for the CPU and the gpu with the 3 games.

    To save money, would it be alright to not buy the cpu cooler and not overclock it yet but buy it at another time when I am ready to overclock HOWEVER I would still get the i5 2500k?

    How much better is that new GPU than my previous one?

    Also, I would MUCH prefer if eveything was from Scan so it all arrives at the same time and packaging prices aren't getting split between companies.
     
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    thetrashcanman Angel headed hipsters

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    haha, i think so, at least a £20 premium!

    and at the op, was this the gpu you did have? http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-...r5-gpu-850mhz-1600-cores-dp-hdmi-2-x-dl-dvi-i

    If you want to save money I'd stick with this and then either sell it later down the road and get different/ better one, or add another one in crossfire.

    I've been using one every now and again for the past month and actually think there pretty good, the fan isn't loud, although it does spin up when your gaming, but you can change that in afterburner with a custom fan profile, it also achieves pretty good frame rates, obviously you won't max everything out, but you can still have a very good playable game.
     
  19. Arcadiu

    Arcadiu What's a Dremel?

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    Yes, that was my original planned GPU. I think I will stick with it as it's available with scan and looks like it should be pretty quick.

    So if I had my original GPU and my other parts in my previous post, would all be well for a good build? Should it be able to run games at high quality at high speeds? Is everything compatible and will it all fit in the case? Will everything I need to build the computer be with the parts I order e.g. cables, fans ect..?
     
  20. murraynt

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    Should be perfect. All you need is a Phillips head really.:thumb:
     

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