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News HDMI to Mini DisplayPort cables ruled illegal

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by arcticstoat, 12 Jul 2011.

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  1. arcticstoat

    arcticstoat Minimodder

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  2. jcb121

    jcb121 What's a Dremel?

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    does this mean DVI-Hdmi cables are also illegal?
     
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  3. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    totally stupid spec, the dongle does exactly the same thing as a cable, there are no signal change inside those dongles.

    can't wait for the day when TV's have DisplayPort as standard.

    just get them from ebay is the best way forward, there will always be such ebay items because it's clearly a superior product compared to dongle+wire. ignore this retard ruling.
     
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  4. Unknownsock

    Unknownsock What's a Dremel?

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    Seems abit odd regardless if its male or female, it should be illegal either way? So basically as usual it all boils down to money.
     
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  5. Kiytan

    Kiytan Shiny

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    that is.....stupid beyond belief.
     
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  6. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    No, the cables are not "illegal". Only they cannot sell them as HDMI cables. The manufacturers will relabel them to something like 'XY to High Definition Interface". Case solved.
     
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  7. Instagib

    Instagib Minimodder

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    Someone at the HDMI Organisation has nothing better to do than nit-pick.
     
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  8. Salty Wagyu

    Salty Wagyu moo

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    Why do the HDMI Organisation do nothing about £100 Monster cables?
     
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  9. smc8788

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    You might be waiting a while, HDMI has pretty much established itself as the de facto standard for TVs and AV equipment now so most companies will see no good reason to add an additional connector 'just' because it's technically superior. I think HDMI will only be replaced when 2k resolution 3D screens hit the market, as I'm pretty sure that would exceed the bandwidth of the current spec. Even then, they will probably just launch a new 'high performance' cable capable of that before it becomes commonplace anyway.
     
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  10. Bungletron

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    What a bunch of guff, I read the blind HDMI cable comparison posted on the other HDMI news that came about last week, no one could really tell the difference, so how does the termination make any difference? The other thing that was mentioned was the HDMI standard (1 lost bit per billion or something) is only tested on the first batch of cables a company produces, after that they are licensed to churn out whatever mediocrity they choose, does not seem like it is any guarantee of quality at all, more just a protection of their license fee. Even the dongle pictured has a bit of cable in it, are you sure that does not count as illegal?

    This. Its how I have my xbox 360 connected to a monitor, does this mean stormtroopers will be battering down my door anytime soon?
     
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  11. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    No. It is about manufacturing and selling them, not about the buyers.
     
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  12. John_T

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    Nail + hammer = loud thumping sound.

    The more difficult they make DisplayPort to use, the more ubiquitous HDMI becomes.
     
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  13. Xir

    Xir Modder

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    Other way round really, they see a chance to kick DP (and mini DP), as next to noone is using it anyway.
    The percentage of displays that have HDMI is larger than the persentage of displays using DP or both.
    (DP displays also have HDMI in, but HDMI displays rarely have DP in.)
     
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  14. Pete J

    Pete J Employed scum

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    Heh. I smell bribery. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic

    As much as we love to hate the Monster cables, the truth is that over a certain length (several meters IIRC) the monster cables can maintain data stability far better than a run of the mill cable. Still, I don't know why you'd have a need for such a long cable!
     
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  15. l3v1ck

    l3v1ck Fueling the world, one oil well at a time.

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    To the Sunday markets.......
     
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  16. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    Because HDMI is a serious money maker for them. Royalty fees are really high for what it is. Sure it's probably (guessing here) 0.75-1$ range... but do the math. Plus you have it on your 2 devices (example: Blu-ray/game console and TV) and the cables.
     
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  17. 3lusive

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    Yeah but they sell 1m cables for +£50 too, like this one
     
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  18. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    Stopping Monster Cable, will look bad for the HDMI group... and people will be afraid and drop HDMI for Display Port. They don't want this.
    PLUS, Monster Cable provide a high markup to retail stores, and well them.

    Everyone (except the consumer) is really happy. The consumer has a choice to buy them or not... consumer choose to buy them like hot cakes.
     
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  20. raxonb

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    This needs to be reported to the News Of The World...oh wait!

    Seriously though the HDMI people are just being stupid. Hopefully ethernet will become the standard.
     
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