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Discussion in 'General' started by chrisb2e9, 28 Apr 2012.

  1. chrisb2e9

    chrisb2e9 Dont do that...

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    Hello,
    I had it out with a guy at work. One of our computers runs a little slow. It's a work comp. It's old.
    He looked at the hard drive. 6gb free. About 20% of the drive. He claims the reason that it runs slow, is because the hard drive is getting full.

    I responded that the computer still has ram and a dedicated page file to use. Independent of what is available of the space on the hard drive.

    His response was that he used to be an IT professional and that I should not argue with him.

    So, A computer will run slower if the hard drive is almost full. Fact or Fiction?
     
  2. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    Fiction. Back then there might have been that argument as most things were loaded onto the page file meaning that theoretically a full hard drive meant no page file. But nowadays? 6GB shouldn't really do anything. It's just old probably.

    Of course If I'm wrong fire away. :D
     
  3. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    If 6gb is 20% of the drive, then the computer is old enough that CPU and ram are going to be more likely to be the cause of the speed issues.

    For what it's worth, several servers I look after have roughly the same percentage of free space on the boot array, and they're fine. Dual quad core xeons, 12gb ram per CPU.
     
  4. chrisb2e9

    chrisb2e9 Dont do that...

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    Yeah I'm pretty sure that it's just an old pc. I mean, lets say the computer had NO page file set but filled on one demand. There is still 6GB for windows XP running facebook or youtube at the most. Not hard drive related.
     
  5. VipersGratitude

    VipersGratitude Multimodder

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  6. PabloFunky

    PabloFunky What's a Dremel?

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    Just punch him.

    No dont, only joking.

    However id take that "im an IT technician " with a pinch of salt, as it seems everyone calls themselves this nowadays.

    IT only stands for Information Technology, dont mean he knows how to fix pcs (prob never seen an osciilscope or multimeter in his life (only guessing of course).

    I just go by the information on here,as i know theres many people on here that do know what they are on about.

    best not to upset people you work with though, as you may have to work with them for another 50 years to come or so :D
     
  7. lp rob1

    lp rob1 Modder

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    Yup, IT is not Computing. As an example - IT GCSE: so stupidly easy that even our government have replaced it with... Computing GCSE: programming! How to actually build computers! Why couldn't I be one year younger, and get the Computing GCSE! :sigh:
     
  8. digitaldunc

    digitaldunc What's a Dremel?

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    Its more likely the machine is calling a load of bloat at startup, fire up msconfig and have a look.
     
  9. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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    Fiction.
     
  10. PabloFunky

    PabloFunky What's a Dremel?

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    I think this thread should extend, due to its heading

    "Fact or Fiction"

    Maybe other things, Is it fact or fiction that im brilliant?, Abomniable snowman etc.
     
  11. noizdaemon666

    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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    Fiction :p
     
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  12. chrisb2e9

    chrisb2e9 Dont do that...

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    Hmmm,
    Bit-tech needs another thread game.

    Fact or Fiction?
     
  13. PabloFunky

    PabloFunky What's a Dremel?

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    He He, i think i will take that as a no then.

    Wasnt really thinking of it as a game though, more of an interesting facts type thread.
     
  14. K404

    K404 It IS cold and it IS fast

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    Could be fragmented.

    Could have a load of memory hogging crap running.

    Could just be horrifically out of date.


    "he used to be an IT professional and that I should not argue with him. "

    Two things :D

    A/ He used to be? What is he now? :p

    B/ If anyone said anything along those lines to me, i'd really argue. Just to wind them up.
     
  15. t4n6o

    t4n6o You know when you've been tangoed

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    Fact and fiction.

    REASON FOR FACT
    the amount of slow down would be minimal i would of thought hardly noticeable in respect

    Deffo agree about the msconfig mine runs slow but opn dstart up when i have too much running at startup
     
  16. theevilelephant

    theevilelephant Minimodder

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    I assume he's thinking that as data is written from the outside of the disk to the centre, more data can pass under the head in less time than at the outside edge of the disk (i.e. when the disk is emptyish). As the disk gets more and more full this would degrade. That said the noted poor performance is likely due to something else.

    Also anyone who asks you to believe them purely because of some arbitrary title....pfff
     
  17. chrisb2e9

    chrisb2e9 Dont do that...

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    it's just old. It does what I need it to do, spreadsheets and email.
    Someone else wanted to use it as some kind of entertainment which I will be addressing at our next supervisor meeting.
    Nothing pisses me off more than knowing that I bust my ass at my job and someone else is complaining that the office computer is too slow to you tube...
     

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