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Storage Just how bad is Seagate?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Harty, 6 Sep 2012.

  1. Harty

    Harty What's a Dremel?

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    In a previous thread I pretty much compiled my new build. Anyway, originally I was going to get a 1TB Samsung HD103SJ HDD, since they seem to be good bang for buck.
    However Scan is all out of stock of these, and since I'd rather order the whole build in a batch, I looked at other HDDs and saw this Seagate drive;
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-...720012-sata-6gb-s-7200rpm-32mb-cache-85ms-ncq

    Now I am hesitant buying this, knowing about Seagate's notorious customer service, and repeatedly failing drives, so I thought to ask here before buying.

    Just a note: I understand WD has much better quality, but I am on a tight budget.
     
  2. happyhammer7

    happyhammer7 What's a Dremel?

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    I have owned Samsung drives, seagate drives and WD drives.

    Every single seagate drive I have had has failed.

    Had one Samsung drive fail and no WD drive fail.

    That is just my experience and as a result, would never ever touch Seagate again.

    However, the next poster could have the opposite experience.
     
  3. CrapBag

    CrapBag Multimodder

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    I've not read up much on the failure rates of diferent brand hdd's but the only one I have had fail so far is a 750gb Samsung F1, it started making noises so I sent it off for rma.

    They sent me a replacement under warranty which promptly failed two weeks later.

    I have 2 seagates that are still going strong 6 years later though.
     
  4. MightyBenihana

    MightyBenihana Do or do not, there is no try

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    If it's is all you can afford and you need 1TB then I guess the choice is made for you.

    As with all products there will be a chance of failure so you should back up any important files so a HDD failure will only be a financial and time issue.

    Remember you will always here from people with problems but rarely from those without and I would guess that failure rates would be below 10% or the company would have probably failed by now.

    So I guess what you need to ask yourself is:

    1, Do I need 1TB or can I get a smaller drive from a different manufacturer with a better rep?

    2, Can I wait a little while to save up the extra?

    3, Do I think the risk to price ratio is worth it for this brand?

    4, Can I get 1 smaller drive now and another later when I need it?
     
  5. Pranja

    Pranja Blackwolf

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    We call Seagate a Shitgate-it bad like that.
     
  6. MightyBenihana

    MightyBenihana Do or do not, there is no try

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  7. Harty

    Harty What's a Dremel?

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    I've already given up quite a few pints at the pub for this build! I'll see if I can squeeze this in there though, thanks.

    EDIT: I couldn't help but notice this drive. What's it like? The rpm isn't listed though...http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-...ata-iii-6gb-s-intellipower-64mb-cache-8ms-oem
     
  8. terrorbyt

    terrorbyt MultiModder

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    Surely he could spend £10 more than that 1tb WD drive you linked and get a 2TB seagate drive? Double the memory for an extra tenner is great value, plus if it fails you just rma it. Always back up and you won't have to pay excessive amounts for what at the end of the day is storage.
     
  9. meandmymouth

    meandmymouth Multimodder

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    Green drives are normally 5400-5900 rpm.

    I have had a fair few drives and the only failure I have had was a Samsung 2TB but it went down slowly so I had time to get everything off it, just.

    Currently got Samsung, Seagate and WD drives and I've not had problems with any.
     
  10. Parge

    Parge the worst Super Moderator

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    My personal experience is that I've had no WD drives fail, one Hitachi drive fail, no Samsung drives fail and three seagate drives fail. As such I don't buy Seagate drives anymore, no matter the cost.
     
  11. Landy_Ed

    Landy_Ed Combat Novice

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    I've had 3 samsungs fail, 1 seagate, & 1 toshiba. I actually swore off more Samsung drives but there was a SATA2 2TB drive going for £71 that was just too good to miss.
     
  12. Landy_Ed

    Landy_Ed Combat Novice

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    I swear I never reposted the page.....
     
  13. Thaifood

    Thaifood Minimodder

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    I miss the good old quantum drives.
     
  14. MrDomRocks

    MrDomRocks Modder

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    Seeing this thread about Seagate has reminded me I apparently have relocated sectors on my drive which means it could fail or is in the way to failing.

    If it does I am not too bothered it is a scratch disk for video. But still its only a year old.....
     
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    It's too difficult to guess really. Certain products, certain batches, particular factories might be worse than others. Overall it greys out.

    Maybe we should create an ongoing thread with poll: where everytime someone has a drive die they +1, so we create our own statistic.
     
  16. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    Every Seagate I've had has got reallocated sectors.. but none have actually failed on me yet. I've had reallocated sectors on brand new Seagate drives.

    Samsung drives. I've had 4 of them, and none of them have had any problems.

    WD: I've got 7 WD Green (EARS) drives. 4 of which have failed.
     
  17. Taniniver

    Taniniver Minimodder

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    I've had WD fail (several), Samsung, Seagate, Hitachi, you name it. Across different PCs over several years. Sadly information like this, individual user experiences, aren't a lot of help. What we really need is some hard data from a long term study of hundreds of thousands of drives. I don't have one to hand though!
     
  18. Bungletron

    Bungletron Minimodder

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    There is outside chance the very first SATA drive I used, a 40GB Maxtor I think (and it may have been IDE) failed, other than that I have never had SATA drive fail on me, I used mostly Samsungs and a few Seagates and Maxtors (Maxtor now defunct and rolled into Seagate). I think hard drive technology is so mature by now the chances of any failure on a new drive is so low across the board that you could consider it to be independent of manufacturer.

    On the other hand I am not particularly demanding on drives either, I never leave my computers on the whole time and I generally change system disks a lot, I am on SSD system disks and the hard drives are used for file storage. If you are caning a drive a lot then you give it cause to fail sooner too.
     
  19. David

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    Had a few Seagate drives die over the years, and a few Maxtors, and don't get me started on Fujitsu drives - never any Samsung ones though. I've had two WD laptop HDDs fail too.

    I tend to lean towards Samsung every time I need a drive nowadays.
     
  20. shah

    shah Minimodder

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    Ah the Maxtor days! I had one noisy Maxtor some 11 years ago :D didn't fail on me though. I had two 160gb WD drives and one of them failed on me. Samsung no problems so far and I have yet to buy a Seagate.
     

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