I think it's fair to say that Ryzen had a bit of a rocky start, although I don't think it was drastically worse than expected given that it's a completely new platform and these things always bring teething trouble. It's all well and good saying that the hardware was good but the software was "the bare minimum", but you can't have good hardware without good BIOS/microcode/OS support, and that definitely let Ryzen down at launch. That's not surprising given that Ryzen was subject to some tweaks at the eleventh hour and board manufacturers were playing catchup as a result. As TMDD says, though, they seem to have ironed out most of the wrinkles and the platform will only improve further. All in all, Ryzen might not have been a flawless launch but it wasn't an utter shambles either.
AM4 APU's have surfaced looking at 18th August for retail availability. OK the only one of note is the A12-9800, debating to jump onboard now an move up the CPUs when the second gen appear :s
Not much point buying an A12 really, same old Excavator cores, no overclocking to mitigate the awful IPC, even the Radeon cores look fairly slow nowadays compared to what a highly clocked 6/7600K can do. I would continue to hold out for proper Zen core APU's.
Aren't they Bristol Ridge? something like that. They are not Ryzen they are what was going to be Excavator.
On the brand new APUs? Nah. Bristolridge has been out for well over a year. And, also: GPU Core Count Increased, New Zen Cores To Boost IPC
Just Google A12 9800 AM4. They've been available to system builders for weeks now. I thought it was pretty common knowledge the first AM4 APU's were going to be re-packaged Excavator parts??
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp...e_apus_are_set_to_hit_retail_by_august_18th/1 Being based on Excavator, these CPUs are not expected to offer revolutionary performance levels, though they will certainly offer a lot of value for money when building basic office or web browsing machines.
Bristolridge is faster than Excavator, though. I remember seeing it a long time ago. It's not like Ryzen, but it's faster. Hmm. That sucks. I was hoping for better.
Yeah it's a shame. We could finally see the return of the all in one gaming APU but AMD are taking their sweet time.
Ryzen APUs if they arrive will be March or so next year was the report I saw. Will take time to package Ryzen and a APU together.
They where announced as OEM only parts last year: https://www.techpowerup.com/229103/amd-a12-9800-bristol-ridge-am4-apu-with-asus-a320m-c-tested Now the same chips have been annonced as retail products: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11669/amd-releases-bristol-ridge-to-retail-am4-gets-apus And here is a review proving they are garbage: https://uk.hardware.info/reviews/7207/amd-a12-9800-bristol-ridge-apu-socket-am4-review
Yeah as expected really. What worries me is that AMD are now releasing them as retail chips for AM4. This will lead many into thinking they are Zen.
Yeah makes you wonder doesn't it? I thought they were going to come out at the same time Ryzen did. It could be bad.. Maybe they are releasing these poo ones because it's miles and miles off? Either way it's not going to help them much.
Those old APUs are still fine for a lot of people, I still have an A10 5700 doing fine service, the great thing here is there is an upgrade path unlike the old APU stuff and unlike buying an Intel variant there will more than likely be a chip around that will work in the socket in a couple of years, meaning you won't have to buy new mobo/RAM etc. Many people buying at this price point won't actually give a stuff about what architecture is there, is it cheap, does it work, job done!
This is my thinking, I'm not pushing my graphics at all, my display isn't even HD an im seeing FPS of 80-90 in most with an R480, the APU will put me at the start of the upgrade path and allow me to wait an jump chip later
Good point actually. You could start out with one of these, then go straight to Ryzen and a GPU. That's quite a massive upgrade path really.
As you already have a GPU going for a R3 would probably make better sense as it's not much more to buy than a hot APU but a stronger 4 thread CPU
