E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

Even the Danish food industry, which stands to lose access to half of its market is more concerned with preserving the Single Market. Tells you something.

 

...that no-one in the Cabinet/HMG is listening?

 

And the car industry chimes in again... More unicorns about to be slaughtered.

 

Someone described the government actions post maybot speech - 'A change in tone, but not in substance'

 

Change in tone: "Brexit will mean losing stuff..."
Same substance: "...and that's how far we got. Let's keep planning for unicorns!".

 

Brussels analysis dismisses proposed model on trade as unworkable

While it said the prime minister had promised clarity on Britain’s hopes for a future trading relationship, it described the model she proposed as unworkable and “double cherry-picking”. It also claimed there had been “zero progress” when it came to ideas for customs cooperation.

 

Meanwhile: The stupid, it burns!

But UKIP is facing bankruptcy anyway, so good times.

 

Thick as Mince*.

*may contain produce of EU origin.

 

So transparency only goes so far.

Tories blocking the origins of that £425k donation to the DUP for Brexit adverts (much in England and not NI) from being revealed.

Now that really makes me want to know who it was made by.

 

Will leak within a week.

 

That makes me wonder what reason the Conservatives would have for not wanting people to find out, the referendum was after all meant to be nonpartisan, unless of course it wasn't and certain people belonging to a particular party needed enough useful idiots to go along with them so they could usher in a new era of social darwinism.

 

The mother of all unicorns is about to follow:

Tusk spells out in words a five year old could understand as to why including Financial Services in an FTA isn't really an option:

Of course if someone like lets say Boris Johnson for example would understand what the problem is will be an entirely different topic.

 

Needs to be written in crayon, extra large...


...you also need to stop Boris eating the crayons.

 

I think the argument is Financial Services should be in for negotiation as the EU wanted to include them when talking to the US about TTIP.

 

I wonder if the UK had a major part to play in that though?

 

That argument is a misrepresentation. The same level of access that the US was offered would be significantly less than the UK enjoys now. What the UK wants is to preserve a level of access that was not offered to the US in the first place.

 

Likely it was the UK that had asked for it in the first place to get better access to the US market, but of course there was never any chance of the US submitting to EU or even neutral oversight and enforcement of rules, so it was always destined to be a pipe dream.

The UK however will be in an entirely different position than the US was, so the EU can offer an agreement (separate from any FTA) for financial services with the caveat of the UK automatically accepting all current and future EU financial regulations plus ECJ jurisdiction in one big take it or leave it package.

 

By all accounts their going for equivalence, probably because someone idiot told them it's pretty much the same thing....It's not but seeing as some of our MPs don't even understand why they don't want to be in "a" customs union trying to explain how equivalence works is probably beyond their comprehension and they would probably would baulk at the idea of having to sign a document that would prevent them from making short term political choices.

 

I think its highly likley we will see a deal on financial services even if theres not a deal on anything else.

Any way you dress it up London is still way ahead of the likes of Frankfurt and Paris as a financial centre, perhaps this will diminish over time but short term the EU are still going to need that capital inflow and services.