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News Apple refreshes MacBook Pro family

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by bit-tech, 13 Jul 2018.

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  1. bit-tech

    bit-tech Supreme Overlord Lover of bit-tech Administrator

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  2. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    Radio Pro discrete graphics?



    More seriously, I wonder how they've fixed, or tried to fix, the butterfly keyboard. It not sounding like the top of an open jar is a start, but it does have to actually work as well. Also I wonder what the cooling is like on the i9 models, or do they start throttling by the time the you open Safari...
     
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  3. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    Many were expecting a Kaby Lake-G part to turn up in a MacBook, maybe it's been relegated to iMacs only (or to a future new xBook line).
     
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  4. Gareth Halfacree

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    Bah - I'll go fix, ta!
     
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  5. Paradigm Shifter

    Paradigm Shifter de nihilo nihil fit

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    2.9GHz CPU, 32GB RAM and 2TB SSD = £4,400. 4TB SSD = £6,700.

    Um. I presume everything is soldered on so no upgrades...? Or easy fixes if something dies...

    But hey, the new Dell Precision 7730 can be maxed out at over $22,000 (US)... so the Macbook Pro is a bargain!

    Of course, that Precision 7730 has a 16GB GPU, 64GB ECC-RAM, same CPU and 8TB of NMVE SSDs...
     
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  6. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Simple - they haven't.
     
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  7. perplekks45

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    This is not a proper refresh, it's merely pushing the top of the envelope further to charge absurd amounts of money for the 4 TB variant. It's worse than console mid-cycle refreshes.
     
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  8. Gareth Halfacree

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    I'm not sure I agree (well, apart from the absurd cost of the 4TB version, you're spot-on there): they've got new processors, more storage, more RAM, revised (but still fundamentally broken) keyboard, new security/voice-recognition copper, new displays. Sure, the chassis is unchanged, but the rest is pretty durn refreshed.
     
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    Yes, but they did not refresh the whole line, did they? The non-Touch Bar MB Pro stay exactly the same. Or did I miss something?
     
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    No, it's only the Touch Bar ones - as the article says (though not the headline, I'll grant you). The only change to the non-Touch Bar versions is to retire the last model that actually worked, which isn't all that refreshing.

    A hardware refresh doesn't have to affect the entire range - when Dell refreshed the XPS13 range with 8th-gen processors, I was still able to buy my 7th-gen XPS13 from 'em.
     
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    Yes, you're right (as usual). But it is still disappointing to have a partial refresh that kills off part of the product line, improves other parts (by arguably quite a bit) leaves other parts untouched and leads to an overall way higher price ceiling.
     
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    Welcome to Apple Computers, may I take your order?
     
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  13. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    That's Gareth's next book bio sorted.

    Yes, I'd like a laptop that i can actually do actual work on without destroying my wrists... No? You'd like me to go what myself?
     
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  14. Gareth Halfacree

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    I think you misspelled "epitaph".
     
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  15. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    I actually meant/was thinking those mini reviews/quotes you often see in book blurb.
     
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    I know, I just like the thought of having "You're right (as usual)" on my headstone when I cark it. Though it won't beat Spike Milligan's "I told you I was ill" (which they wouldn't let him have, so it ended up being "Dúirt mé leat go raibh mé breoite" - the same thing, only Irish.)
     
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    Níl sé ach créachta feoil.

    Apologies to any gaelic speakers if Google Translate as ballsed that up.
     
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    I have never heard an adequate explanation of why people use Mac books. What is it that makes them better for certain types of work than a regualr laptop/PC. To me they are just over-priced tech for people to wave around in a Starbucks. "Look at my bank balance guys! I can buy overpriced tech that isn't upgradable or repairable..for no reason other than it looks shiny!"

    Educate me.
     
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  19. MLyons

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    Apparently the fact it’s more UNIX than windows if what I’ve been told as “windows isn’t a true development environment “
     
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    For some, Industry Inertia. Some industry's tools were originally mac-only, and whilst some have since gone cross-platform they've stuck with mac because that's what they're used to, and subsequently what new entrants get trained to use.

    Apple haven't [yet] pissed them off to the point that swallowing the cost of replacing all their macs and retraining all their staff becomes a palatable option.
     
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