Hey guys, this is my first post on Bit-tech's love the site btw. I have a problem dont know what I should get. Perhaps you guys can help me out. Here's what I had in mind- 1.Alienware M17® Total = £2350 Graphics Processor : Dual 512MB ATI® Mobility Radeon™ HD 3870 – CrossFireX™ Enabled! Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme X9100 3.06GHz (6MB Cache 1066MHz FSB) Display: 17-inch WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 LCD (1200p) with Clearview Technology Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Biometric Fingerprint Reader Keyboard Options: Non-Illuminated Keyboard - English Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SO-DIMM at 1067MHz - 2 x 2048MB System Drive: Extreme Performance - RAID 0 - 500GB 7200 RPM SATA (2 x 250GB) with Free Fall Protection Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 64-bit - English Notebook Tuners and Remotes: Without Media Center Remote Control or TV Tuner Optical Drives: 8x Dual Layer Burner (DVD±RW, CD-RW) with LightScribe Technology Wireless Network Card: Internal Intel® Ultimate N 5300 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card with MIMO Technology Sound Hardware: Internal High-Definition Audio with Surround Sound Essential Christmas Bundles: Gaming Bundle • Logitech G9 Laser Mouse • Logitech Digital Precision PC Gaming Headset Save £30 Warranty: AlienCare 1-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return AlienContact: Added Bonus with any AlienSupport Selection AlienContact - Remote Alienware Support Port Adapters : HDMI to DVI-D Adapter Mobile Transport: Alienware® Orion Backpack Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mobile Binder Alienware Extras: Alienware® Owner Identification Card Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mesh Cap Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mousepad Alienware Extras: Alienware® Sticker Alienware Extras: M17 Keyboard Diagram Overlay Alienware Extras: M17 Protective Cloth Sleeve 2.XPSTM M1730 (N11X7304) Date & Time: Wednesday 5 November 2008 10:17 PM SYSTEM COMPONENTS XPSTM M1730 (N11X7304) Qty 1 Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme Processor X9000 (2.80GHz, 800MHz FSB, 6MB L2-cache), Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium SP1- English Unit Price Incl. VAT £2,733.77 Get Free upgrade to 640GB Hard Drive until 12/11/2008 Expires 12 November 2008 Save £250 (Inc Vat) until 12/11/2008 Expires 12 November 2008 - £250.00 Get 5% off! Expires 05 November 2008 - £124.19 Catalog Number: 20211 N11X7304 Module Description Show Details Base Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme Processor X9000 (2.80GHz, 800MHz FSB, 6MB L2-cache) Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium SP1- English Memory 4096MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x2048] Keyboard Uk/Irish Internal Keyboard (QWERTY) Video Card DUAL SLI 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800GTX card Hard Drive 640GB Free Fall Sensor Raid 0 Stripe - 2 X 320GB (7200RPM) Hard Drive Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse - Adjustable sensitivity, interchangeable grips, weight tuning Optical Devices Blu-ray Disc Combo (DVD+/-RW + BD-ROM) Wireless Networking Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-PCI Card, EUR Cables UK/Irish Additional 220V AC Adapter Power Cord Shipping Documents English Documentation Gedis Bundle Reference N11X7304 Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 9.0 / English - (Does not include Microsoft® Word) Standard Warranty 1Yr XPS Premium Warranty Support - Priority Call In and Onsite Support Enhanced Service Packs 1Yr XPS Premium Warranty Support - Priority Call In and Onsite Support Protect your new PC McAfee® Security Centre™ 9.0 - 15 Month Protection - English Power Supply AC Adapter 230W USB Memory Keys Lexar 8GB Jumpdrive Firefly Bluetooth Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth 2.0 Module (up to 3 Mbps) with Enhanced Data Rate EUR Placemat Eng, Frn, Ger, Spn Placemat XPS M1730 Order Information Inspiron Order - UK Primary Battery Primary 9-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (85 WHr) Carrying Cases XPS M1730 Backpack Carrying Case Dell System Media Kit Resource DVD XPS M1730 - (Diagnostics & Drivers) Colour Choice Crimson Red with White LED Backlights Accidental Damage Support No Accidental Damage Support TV Tuner and Remote Control Dell™ Travel Remote Control Online Promotion Option for GEDIS Configs Dell Internet Order ISP Software UK Internet Service Provider (Orange & Tiscali) LCD 17.0" UltraSharp™ WUXGA (1920x1200) TFT with TrueLife™ with Integrated 2.0MP web cam TOTAL Incl. VAT:£2,359.58 ________________________________________ Additional Discounts and Coupons Get Free Shipping until 12/11/2008 Expires 12 November 2008 Total excl. VAT VAT Rate Total incl. VAT Sub-total £2,008.15 17.50 % £2,359.58 Total Delivery Charge £17.02 17.50 % £20.00 Delivery Charge Discount -£17.02 17.50 % -£20.00 Total Price Qosmio X300-13W £2,008.15 £2,359.58 No Payments Until May 2009* More information on financing 3.Toshiba Qosmio X300-13W total = £2299 Processor type : Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX9300 clock speed : 2.53 GHz Front Side Bus : 1066 MHz 2nd level cache : 12 MB Operating system Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition (pre-installed, Toshiba-HDD recovery) System memory standard : 4,096 (2,048 + 2,048) MB maximum expandability : 8,192 MB technology : DDR3 RAM (1066 MHz) Hard disk capacity : 640 (320 + 320) GB certification : S.M.A.R.T. DVD Super Multi drive (Double Layer) compatibility : CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-R(DL), DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R(DL), DVD+RW, DVD-RAM maximum speed : Read: 24x CD-ROM, 8x DVD-ROM/ Write: 24x CD-R, 4x CD-RW, 10x HS CD-RW, 24x US CD-RW, 8x DVD-R, 6x DVD-R (Double Layer), 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+R, 6x DVD+R (Double Layer), 8x DVD+RW, 5x DVD-RAM type : DVD Super Multi (Double Layer) drive Display size : 17 " type : Toshiba TruBrite® WSXGA+ TFT High Brightness display internal resolution : 1,680 x 1,050 Graphics adapter manufacturer : NVIDIA® type : NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800M GTS with NVIDIA® SLI™ technology supporting TurboCache™ technology memory : 2x512 MB dedicated VRAM (up to 1,791 MB total available graphics memory using TurboCache™ technology with 3 GB system memory) memory type : GDDR3 (800 MHz) Video RAM (resp. Video RAM and system memory combined) connected bus : 16x PCI Express Internal video modes Max External Video Modes Max Resolution : 2,048 x 1,536 Max Refresh Rate : 85 Hz Non-interlaced resolution with max refresh rate : 1,280 x 1,024 Interfaces 1 x DC-in 1 x RJ-11 1 x RJ-45 1 x i.LINK® (IEEE 1394) 1 x external microphone 1 x RGB 1 x headphone (stereo) 1 x line-in shared with microphone socket 1 x S/PDIF-out (optical) shared with headphone socket 1 x integrated 1.3 Megapixels Web Camera with built-in microphone 1 x HDMI-CEC (REGZA-Link) supporting 1080p signal format 1 x line-out shared with headphone socket 1 x 5-in-1 Bridge Media slot (supports SD™ Cards up to 16 GB, Memory Stick® up to 256 MB, Memory Stick Pro™ up to 4 GB, MultiMedia Card™ up to 2 GB and xD-Picture Card™ up to 2 GB) 3 (Left 1, Right 2) x USB 2.0 Sleep-and-Charge 1 (Left) x eSATA/USB 2.0 Sleep-and-Charge 1 x DisplayPort Expansion 2 x memory slots (1 to configure) 1 x ExpressCard slot Wireless communication Wireless Technology : Bluetooth® Compliancy : Wi-Fi® Network Support : 802.11b/g/Draft-N Wireless Technology : Wireless LAN Wired communication topology : international V.90 modem (V.92 ready) speed : 56 Kbps data and 14.4 Kbps fax topology : Gigabit Ethernet LAN speed : 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX/1000BASE-T Sound system supported audio format : 24-bit stereo speakers : built-in Harman Kardon® stereo speaker system with 2 x bass reflex speakers, 2 x tweeter speakers and 1 x subwoofer technology manufacturer : Toshiba Bass Enhanced Sound System with Dolby® Home Theater™ Keyboard keys : 105 Windows keys : Yes special features : Standard numeric keypad Pointing device type : Touch Pad Battery technology : lithium-ion maximum life : currently no official Windows Vista® battery benchmark result available AC adaptor input voltage : autosensing AC adapter (100/240 V) for worldwide usage Physical dimensions W x D x H : 412 x 306 x 43.2 (front) / 62.5 (rear) mm weight : starting at 4.3 kg Warranty 1-year international warranty. Upgrade your standard warranty with Toshiba warranty extension, uplift and all-risks insurance packs. Bundled hardware AC Power Cable AC adaptor ExpressCard type Remote Control for Windows Vista® Bundled software Toshiba Bluetooth™ Monitor Toshiba Disc Creator Toshiba User's Manual Supervisor Password Utility Chicony Camera Assistant Software Toshiba DVD Player Ulead® DVD MovieFactory® for TOSHIBA Toshiba Face Recognition McAfee® Internet Security Suite 2008 - Toshiba Edition (includes free Internet updates for 30 days) Toshiba Recovery Disc Creator Dolby® Control Center HDMI Control Manager Microsoft® Works, Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 (free 60-day trial) Toshiba Value Added Package (Toshiba Power Saver, Toshiba Zooming Utility, Toshiba PC Diagnostic Tool, Toshiba Flash Cards, Toshiba Components Common Driver, Toshiba Accessibility, Toshiba Button Support) Google Software (Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, Google Desktop, Picasa) Toshiba Bluetooth™ Stack Connectivity Doctor ConfigFree™ Toshiba utilities and drivers Toshiba Assist Toshiba EasyMedia Toshiba TEMPRO Performance Tuning Service Wireless LAN (802.11b/g/ Draft-N) Google Software (Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, Google Desktop, Picasa) USB & USB/eSATA Sleep-and-Charge HDMI-CEC (REGZA-Link) Bluetooth® 2.1 with EDR McAfee® Internet Security Suite 2008 - Toshiba Edition Toshiba Face Recognition Smart Display Support Toshiba Flash Cards Easy Keys Remote Control Fingerprint Reader-Single Sign On S/PDIF Internal HD 720p support 5 Harman Kardon® Stereo Speakers (incl. Subwoofer) Dolby® Home Theater™ Dual HDD Toshiba ConfigFree™ Integrated Bridge Media Adapter Diversity Antenna Built-in camera & microphone Security features main battery pack (by sliding latch) main memory (by screw) supervisor password slot for Kensington Cable Lock user password system password security main hard disk (by screw) Special features SM BIOS compliant integrated microphone for Voice over IP Enhanced Intel® SpeedStep® Technology integrated 1.3 Megapixels Web Camera for Video over IP Multimedia Bar with 9 feather-touch Easy Keys (CD/DVD launcher, Play/Pause, Stop, Rewind, Forward, Mute, on/off function of white LEDs, Camera, Dolby) Certification This product is in compliance with the requirements of the applicable European Directives for CE marking. 4.Sager 9262 Total = ~ £2250 Sager 9262 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Desktop Replacement Gaming Notebook (Built on Clevo D901C) Qty: 1 30 Day No Questions Asked Money Back Guarantee! (Others only give you 15 days) Qty: 1 No Notebook Skin Qty: 1 17" WUXGA Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy w/ Wide Viewing Angle (1920x1200) Qty: 1 2X Dual nVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX w/1gb (1024mb x 2) DX10PCI-Express (User Upgradeable!) Qty: 1 Intel® Core 2Quad™ Q9550 | 12MB L2 Cache | 2.83GHz | 1,066MHz FSB Qty: 1 4096MB (4GB) DDR2 800MHz (2 SODIMMs) (Requires 64 Bit Operating System) Qty: 1 RAID 0 (Data Stripping - Requires 2 Identical Hard Drives) Qty: 1 200GB | 7200 RPM | SATA II (16MB Cache Buffer) Qty: 1 Add 2nd 200GB | 7200 RPM | SATA-300 HDD Qty: 1 No 3rd Hard Drive Qty: 1 8X DVD±R / RW / 4X + Dual Layer Drive with Software Qty: 1 Built in Intel Pro Wireless Wi-Fi Link 5300 802.11 A/G/N Qty: 1 Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition Qty: 1 STANDARD SMART Li-ION BATTERY ( 12 CELLS ) Qty: 1 Standard Full Range Auto Switching AC Power Adapter Qty: 1 Deluxe Black Business Carrying Case (Free!) Qty: 1 No Office Software Qty: 1 Sager 3 Yr Labor, 1 Yr Parts Warranty (Yrs 2+3 paid by PCT) Lifetime 24/7 Domestic Support Qty: 1 (No Accidental Protection Policy) Qty: 1 $3,858.00 $3,858.00 Estimate Shipping Country [United States \/] Shipping Method [Ground \/] Shipping Estimate $46.29 Subtotal $3,858.00 Shipping $46.29 Tax * Credit Price $3,904.29 Cash Discount Price ** $3,788.55 ________________________________________ Savings $115.74 So what do you guys think ? Which one will do the job, it's for gaming mostly, dont need batery life. Or do you guys know off something better out there ? Thanks for the replies.
I'd recommend you think long and hard about getting a gaming laptop or not. Since getting mine I've been wishing had a PC. My reasoning in getting one was I move around alot and didn't want the baggage of a PC as don't own a car or for when I move overseas. Shipping a PC costs a small fortune! From my 2yrs experience of 17inch brute of a gaming laptop I'd advise not to get one. Rather invest in a SFF Gaming PC if you want easy portablity for LAN's. Shuttle even does a nice bag to carry your RIG and Monitor. But if your set on the idea of owning a gaming laptop..... Alienware: avoid like the plague, overpriced piece of plastic Dell XPS: avoid like the flu, overpriced over featured LED rich piece of plastic (check out the second hand market though as can bag a bargain) Toshiba: no comment, never realised they had a gaming laptop, though looks again overpriced but end of the day i'd never buy Toshiba Sager: better value and if I only had 4 notebooks to choose from the 1 i'd get for sure, the clevo chassis' are brill, my laptop if Evesham Voyager DC720 which is a clevo If I was to get another 17inch gaming laptop I'd definately get a Clevo. Would shop around to find a Clevo white book. IMO you money is wasted on SLI. Get a Clevo 17inch chassis, 9800gtx, have the res lower at 1440x900 for longevity, 4GB of mem, definatelily get a 7200RPM H/D and get a mid range cpu. QX's are overpriced, its the GPU thats important. I say go for the lower native res as a year ago or more I was fine for gaming on 1920x1200 but now new games barely playable which would be ok on 1440x900. Do the above and your laptop should come in around 1200-1600.(not looked into prices on this for an age). You can use the change to build a descent gaming pc. Do note that you WILL want to invest in an external monitor and keyboard. Gaming on a laptop without then sucks bigtime. p.s. Dell XPS 1530 and 1330 are awesome laptops but not for high end gaming.
Sager, definitely. If only for the gfx cards that're in it. Avoid Alienware as their customer service can be appalling. Dell 2nd hand if you can get the spec. Toshiba aren't bad but the Sager seems better for similar price.
Well looks like the Sager is the better choice, should I go for the Quad core or should I perhaps rather go with the E8500 as I dont see the use of paying $100 more for the E8600. thanks for the replies so far. P.S. what do you guys think of Rock Laptops ? I think they are a bit over priced.
So no more advise ? Please guys help me out, I dont want to waste money on the top end stuff when I can get similar performace from a less expensive laptop. It's only for gaming so I dont need all of the fancy stuff, maybe watching a movie now and then on it, but I dont need a finger print reader or webcam, although a webcam can be usefull sometimes. Thanks for the responses so far.
rock is good but beware i bought evesham, evesham went bust and rock almost went bust but were lucky enough to be bought out by rich guy thats why they still in biz
there are other good laptop brands out there like MSI and Asus with their g50 series. the prices seemed ok. if your going to be gaming only, then i would use half of that suggested money to get a desktop pc which is more powerful and upgradable depending on how you build/buy it. i built a pc (with some bit-tech advice ) for about 550 pounds excluding a monitor and it can run crysis on high with a solid frame rate. considering the fact that most of your choices are over 2000 pounds, you can buy a "normal" laptop for about 1000 pounds then use whats left o build/buy a desktop. just my advice
To go with what you asked, I'd say grab a dual core. Most games at the moment don't make any noticable use of quadcore, use the change to buy a nice laptop bag or something. RwD
