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Gaming Novint Falcon Limited Edition

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 7 Dec 2007.

  1. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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  2. Amon

    Amon inch-perfect

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    How come no video of the device in action?

    Out of curiosity, I wonder how this thing would work in something like Flight Simulator.
     
  3. Copiedright

    Copiedright What's a Dremel?

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    This would be perfect for the Black and White games!
     
  4. dom_

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    I think playboy need to work with them.
     
  5. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Would be nice to see what the demo looked like.

    But I agree with Joe, $239 is a lot of money for something so specialised. Does it have integration into 3D design applications?
     
  6. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    hate to be pedantic, but it's just three axes if you can't twist. (although it looks at least partially twistable around the x and y axes, in which case it's 5-axis). I wrote my dissertation on 3d interface design and my supervisor was always bashing me about using 1-to-6-DOF (degrees of freedom, or axes) correctly when writing a taxonomy of input devices. (yes you can get 1-dof devices, the analog triggers on the x360 pads are examples of that)

    the 6 from 6-axis (or DOF; they're pretty much interchangeable terms but axis is friendlier) comes from the fact that you can translate in X,Y,Z as well as rotate around X,Y,Z.

    also! played with a much, much larger version of this device (although there were two of them and more geared around brute force interaction like picking heavy objects up - it could give a 200N force so it had some kick!) at uni - haptics are FUN. VERY FUN.
     
  7. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

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    It would only be 4 axis if the nipple twisted since it would be rotating about the Z axis.
     
  8. Sea Shadow

    Sea Shadow aka "Panda"

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    I second that!

    All in all it looks pretty neat but I don't think I could justify the money for it.

    BTW: from your description, it sounds like it moves on 3 axes not 6.
    EDIT: Doh Fod beat me to it.
     
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  9. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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    Alright, smartarses - I've corrected the article to say three axes. My bad. :p
     
  10. DarkLord7854

    DarkLord7854 What's a Dremel?

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    I wanna see a vid :p

    It's pretty expensive =\
     
  11. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    DarkLord: expensive? the devices i used at uni cost 100,000 euros! this is a bloody bargain!
     
  12. DarkLord7854

    DarkLord7854 What's a Dremel?

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    Well looking at it from the point of view of support versus use, it's expensive yes. The fact you can't twist it is a real bummer though. If there was an app that came with it, to sorta build your own mods for *most* games, then that would be pretty darn cool.
     
  13. sub routine

    sub routine Archie Gemel

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    ningk ningk..wibble wibble
    fnar fnar.
     
  14. yakyb

    yakyb i hate the person above me

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    hmm i can actually see this becoming popular

    with the success of the Wii many people will be looking at the new form of interface

    out of interest is it availible in the uk
     
  15. TomD22

    TomD22 What's a Dremel?

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    Leaving aside the force feeback (which does sound cool...)


    It's a joystick. Only, instead of sticking upward from the base/desk, it sticks forward from the base/desk, presumably making it hugely uncomfortable to hold....
     
  16. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    nope. joysticks are 2-DOF.

    some joysticks can be partially twisted left and right aroudn the z-axis, in which case technically they are 3-DOF, but you still don't have the z translation this device offers.
     
  17. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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    Arkanrais What's a Dremel?

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    damn, beat to the chase. I can only imagine what the pr0n industry could do with this piece of kit (or even a moded version of it) if they teamed up with some decent game designers. its a hell of a funny prospect but an almost serious one.

    (pulls mind out of the gutter) I wonder what advantages (or fun) there would be for having 2 of these in use at the same time (with the appropriate drivers, of course)
     
  19. Darkedge

    Darkedge Minimodder

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    System Shock 2 is better of course.

    Anyway... I want one.
     
  20. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg What's a Dremel?

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    Thats fooking cool.... But i agree with darklord its a bit expensive as a games controller, even compared to the 100k fod mentions, its still a games controller. If you could use all your games out the box it might be nearly worth it. Can just see every one in tf2 playing pyro to save there arms from the recoil, sniping would require even more skill since the device would be actively pulling your arm downwards and swaying not just your visiual changing.
     
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