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News Intel warns users not to install its Spectre, Meltdown patches

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by bit-tech, 23 Jan 2018.

  1. bit-tech

    bit-tech Supreme Overlord Lover of bit-tech Administrator

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  2. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    If they can't release a fault free update some *six months after first being made aware of these vulnerabilities I'm left wondering if that's down to a lack of testing or if it's a case of not being able to mitigate against the vulnerabilities because of hardware limitations.

    *Weren't they told about Spectre and Meltdown back in June?
     
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    This just keeps on getting better... NOT
     
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  4. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    Thank God for RYZEN. :D
     
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  5. Anfield

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  6. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    Have MS told Windows not to install the patch?
     
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  8. Anfield

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    6 months of limited internal testing, vs. deployment on hundreds of millions of devices and configurations. You're going to find a lot of bugs.

    AFAIK, AMD have yet to even release their microcode patches to mitigate SPECTRE, so far they're reliant on application and OS-level protections only.
     
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  10. Gareth Halfacree

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    There's "going to find a lot of bugs" and there's "release something so pitiful that pretty much every Linux vendor pulls it from their repos and you have to issue a press release warning people not to install it."

    When it looked like it only affected Broadwell and Haswell, you could excuse it. Now we know it affects bleedin' everything? Nah. Intel dropped the ball, no excuses.
     
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  11. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Favourite quote of the week.
     
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  12. Sn3akr

    Sn3akr What's a Dremel?

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    If you actually read the article you're referring to, you'd know it's only older AND processors and not Ryzen that has a similar problem.. And Athlons are outdated mostly anyways :D

    Next upgrade -> mobo/cpu combo to ryzen
     
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  13. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Last week: grr i have an ivybridge, will i ever get a bios update?

    This week: well, that's time and hassle saved.
     
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  14. kosch

    kosch Trango in the Mango

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    VMware was shipping the microcode update with one of its patches. That got pulled about 48 hours after they released it. Luckily I only pushed it out to a couple of test hosts and no harm done it seems. For the majority of our hypervisor and server guest deployments we are waiting for the dust to settle a bit more as it seems every other day KB's are being updated. We have the luxury of them being very private so our risk surface is alot less.
     
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  15. Anfield

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    I never said Ryzen, I said AMD.
     
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