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Motors Bit-Tech F1 2017 thread - Season Complete

Discussion in 'General' started by RedFlames, 27 Nov 2016.

  1. IanW

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    HAWT! But will it last a whole race? And it's no longer 'open wheel' racing then.
     
  3. IanW

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    I think they still have to switch to a fresh car at half distance.

    True.

    In other news there was a 2-car demo of driverless racing before last weekends race in Buenos Aires. One car clipped a corner and crashed, the other noticed a dog had run onto the track and avoided it.
     
  4. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    Well that's tragic.

    As for the new car, that's a first render, bet the finished machine looks nothing like that once budget and safety concerns get taken into account. Nice looking though.
     
  5. IanW

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    It's not that different to F1's compulsory tyre-change pitstop, and there is a set minimum time it has to take.

    As battery tech improves, the car change will (hopefully) fade away.
     
  6. legoman

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    I believe the plan with Formula E is for them to be able to run the whole race one one charge as the tech improves.
     
  7. fix-the-spade

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    It's very different. One is there for arbitrary reasons, but presents an opportunity for competition.

    The other is there because the equipment cannot last race distance, then the driver has to sit there twiddling his thumbs for no good reason. It is literally anti-competitive.

    Quick change battery packs would be much cooler. Both as an event akin to F1 pit stops and an extra layer of skill for the pit crews. It would make developing lighter weight batteries a priority too. Or just dump the naughty step time out altogether, let those drivers show some athletic prowess.
     
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  8. 13eightyfour

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    I don't understand why changing batteries as a 'pit stop' isn't a thing! it makes more sense than having 2 cars per driver, and would be significantly cheaper. But more importantly would allow them to run at some normal race tracks!

    I really want to like Fe but the changing cars halfway through , stupid on screen graphics, and constant street circuits kill it for me tbh.

    Back to F1 I actually really like the look of the Sauber, that might be because last years livery was utterly terrible though.
     
  9. javaman

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    Haven't they slowly increased the Formula e race distance over the last few seasons?
    I do believe they will be aiming for no car switches by then and they didn't go for battery switching mainly for safety reasons.
     
  10. fix-the-spade

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    90km or 1 hour for all three seasons to date.

    They went to bigger batteries after season one, 200kg of batteries apparently wasn't enough. In theory from next season on the maximum power allowance will increase, but that all depends on those batteries. Cars lasting single races was supposed to happen from year 2, but seems to have been quietly forgotten.
     
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    1000x this on all points.

    Bumpy street circuits that look like karting tracks + slow-ish looking cars + everything you said.
     
  12. B1GBUD

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    Renault Sport RS17

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    Looking good
     
  13. fix-the-spade

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    That's a lot nicer looking that the Sauber, the black back end probably hides a multitude of lumpy aero sins.
     
  14. David

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    That looks nice.

    The Sauber though... were they trying for sponsorship from Trump? It's minging.
     
  15. BentAnat

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    That Renault looks quite clean... The question is what the black is hiding around the rear.
     
  16. RedFlames

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    It's not the best pic ever but the the Findia looks a bit dull...

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  17. legoman

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    Batman called from the 60's, he wants the fin back for his car

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  18. javaman

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    Silver.....Black....Orange......Johnnie Walker....Discount McLaren?

    I expect Renault to do well this year. They've been working on the car since the start of last season.
     
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    Looks like it has been vacuum pressed, and they have not bothered cutting off the excess material.
     
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    WTF is going on with the front suspension mounting? Easily the worst looking car released so far.
     

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