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Electronics Controlling 230V device with 5V

Discussion in 'Modding' started by mikaelgu, 16 Mar 2006.

  1. mikaelgu

    mikaelgu What's a Dremel?

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    Hello all gurus!
    I'm thinking of building a touch sensitive thingy to control my reading lights in the bedroom. I'm using a QT220 (for two lights) and have got all that figured out. My problem though lies with switching the lights them selves. Now, the design I'm working on doesn't have a whole lot of space to fit into, thus the components are fairly small and thus my PCB transformer only outputs around 19mA at 9V (that's 0.35VA) but it has dual secondary's so I suppose 38mA is possible. This goes through a 7805 to generate good clean electricity for the QT220.
    So here's where the problems start. First I was thinking of using simple relays for the job, but browsing through a few vendors the best ones I've found use 60mA a piece and I need two! so that's more than 3 times the power I have available. Looked through ePanorama and found semiconductor relays, but everything I saw required 12V.
    So, the question is; can I control 230V (max 60W) lights using either regulated 5V or (very) unregulated 9V?

    Thank you in advance,
    mikaelgu
     
  2. Brubacker

    Brubacker What's a Dremel?

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    You can try using a thyristor / Triac ( the same as a transistor but then for high voltages )
     
  3. gideon

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    check your local electronics dealer they should have some 5v relays :confused:
     
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  5. mikaelgu

    mikaelgu What's a Dremel?

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    Plenty or 5V relays available from all of 'em, but as I said in my first post, they exceed my available current...

    I think I'll just try to sqeeze a bigger transformer in there and go with the relays... Then again, doing it all in semiconductors would be more fun..
     
  6. mikaelgu

    mikaelgu What's a Dremel?

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    More research lead to this
    It's for 110V, but I suppose by changing the MOV for a 250V type and the IRF640 to a eg IRF644 should do the trick. Something in the range of this I assume would be a suitable MOV. What other properties should be considered?
    What puzzles me though is the "rectifying bridge". I'd imagine it to be a DC circuit, but I suppose it has something to do with the controlled AC side?
    Also, can't seem to find a 74C14, found several other in the 74x14 though, would they work?
     
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  8. mikaelgu

    mikaelgu What's a Dremel?

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    Thank you very much, that looks very nice.
     
  9. MisterX

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    You can also try some big high-power transistors, like those used in the TVs. They work with the high voltage, and might be able to handle the big current you need to switch.
     
  10. mikaelgu

    mikaelgu What's a Dremel?

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    Actually the current needed to be switched isn't that big. Anyway I suppose transistors like that would use up way too much current for the switching.

    I think I'll go with http://www.knollep.de/Hobbyelektronik/projekte/25/index.htm but instead of the shown opto I'll use a 5mA version. That should leave me with plenty of current unused even from my only 38mA supply.

    Still, thank you very much for the suggestion!
     
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