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Project: Lian Leaks - Big update 2 8th Jan 2007

Discussion in 'Project Logs' started by steelyglint, 10 Nov 2006.

  1. steelyglint

    steelyglint What's a Dremel?

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    You make a good point on the 80mm fan mounts...its now on my 'to do' list.

    As to your question.....I really have no idea. I don't tend to plan these things...they just happen. There may have been a good reason but if there was then I've forgotten :D

    And don't worry about the PSU cables....haven't even started on that part yet.

    I appreciate all the comments and suggestions....keep them coming.
     
  2. steelyglint

    steelyglint What's a Dremel?

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    I have no idea at all. I got it cheap from another member here who forced my to buy it :D
    I'll let you know when it's all up and running.
     
  3. customh

    customh conflagration.

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    Beautiful watercooled goodness, I can't wait 'til I have money to to this...
     
  4. steelyglint

    steelyglint What's a Dremel?

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    The drive coolers are very effective. With both GPU and CPU at 100% for three days the drives have not gone above 36c. More below....

    Just a quick 'no pics' update.
    All the hardware is in and running...well actually for a second time. Had leak tested for 20 hours without problems so connected all the gear and installed XP plus updates etc.
    Left it running at 100% using Folding@Home CPU and GPU clients while I went to work. Tried to check out how it was running via LOGMEIN.com and couldn't get a connection. Assumed the GPU Folding@Home client had borked as the beta is a little sensitive so didn't worry too much.
    Came home from work a few hours later to find a non-running PC. The reason for this I discovered was a very very small leak from the flowmeter. The good thing is that it was not my connections but a small crack in the flowmeter...I guess a manufacturing fault. The leak had only allowed a few drops out but they had dripped into a gap of the casing of my new Tagen PSU...hence sudden PC stoppage. I now have a dead PSU :wallbash:

    Anyhoo...As I was not too happy with the Sapphire mainboard (OC options not great) I stripped the whole lot out and installled my Asrock Dual-SATAII which I know will run my X2 3800 at 2500mhz all day. Have replaced the Tagen with the Hiper TypeR 580 from my old rig and I guess will try to RMA the Tagen.

    So the rig is now running sweetly and has been for the last three days. It has both the CPU and GPU versions of Folding@Home running at 100% with the X2 3800 @2500mhz. The X1900XT is clocked at 630/750.

    Current temps are:

    CPU - 38c
    Chipset - 36c
    GPU - 41c
    HD's both - 35c

    Got a lot of wiring to sort out and some subtle lighting....will post pics when some more work is done but thought I should share these experiences with you all. I guess the moral is you can never leak test for long enough to be totally sure :D
     
  5. UnkleRosco

    UnkleRosco What's a Dremel?

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    I forced u tho buy nothing... now go n buy my other gear or ELSE!!
     
  6. steelyglint

    steelyglint What's a Dremel?

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    Shhhhh! Mrs Steelyglint could be watching :D
     
  7. n00btard

    n00btard Go away

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    Don't let her find out, or she'll use the same trick on you! :hehe:
     
  8. steelyglint

    steelyglint What's a Dremel?

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    Time to catch up on this project log that I have neglected somewhat. I could give many excuses but I would not insult you all :D Although I was working all over Xmas and New Year and was away for a week also....anyway back to business.

    Some of this will be a little out of sequence so bear with me and read on...

    My last post detailed a few issues with a leaking flowmeter and a crap mainboard so the following images give a run down on all of that.

    Installing hard drives into cooling unit...and praying nothing leaks!
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    Leak testing with original crappy Sapphire board...note innocent looking flowmeter just visible here.
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    Wider view after a few hours...still no leaks
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    24 hours of leak testing and time to fire it up!
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    So far so good...it didn't last as you have read in my previous post.
    More to come.............
     
  9. ComputerKing

    ComputerKing <img src="http://forums.bit-tech.net/images/smilie

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    cooool I like the 24 hours test :D keeep Going :D cool Pink Water :D :thumb:
     
  10. steelyglint

    steelyglint What's a Dremel?

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    More as promised.

    Some work done on some of the finer details. please bear in mind that since the last pictures the mainboard has been changed from the POS Sapphire to my nice, stable and very overclockable Asrock 939Dual-SATAII. The Sapphire was so bad that it would only run my RAM at 333 when it is rated stock at 500. It would also not OC my X2 3800 past 2100mhz. The Asrock board (that was half the price) runs the RAM exactly at spec and OC's the CPU to 2500mhz rock steady. Anyhoooo...this meant a complete stripdown of the watercooling and rebuild with the new board plus another 24hrs leak testing...this time without the flowmeter which has been drop-kicked over my back fence :D

    So...some smaller stuff.
    I had been looking for a card reader in silver for some time and everywhere either did not have one at all or was out of stock...had a black one in as a temporary measure....not a good look
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    Gave up searching for silver so got this...
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    Front facia came off no problem and was sanded to give a key for paint
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    Modding cat came over to make sure I'd done a good job
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    A couple of coats of primer, some sanding and a couple of coats of 'aluminium' colour paint later ...
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    Glue back the LED covers
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    And its a done job
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    Did you ever have one of those "Why the hell didn't I think of that BEFORE I went ahead" moments? This was mine :wallbash: I'd glued the mesh into place ages ago and now realised that its silvery colour reflected external light so much that the internals couldn't be seen. The obvious solution is to paint matt black so it kind of disappears. Took me two hours to very carefully mask off both sides of the side panels and the best part of a day priming and painting. I was so annoyed I only took one photo...sorry :waah:
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    The finished product...much better. Will be even better when I get some subtle internal lighting sorted out.
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    Still a little more to come...
     
  11. steelyglint

    steelyglint What's a Dremel?

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    If only 24 hours had been enough :sigh: Leaked after about 36 hours.
    The "pink water" is Tek-Protect Plus that gives great results and needs no mixing or measuring...highly recommended :thumb:

    Thanks for the comment....need more to keep me motivated :clap:
     
  12. steelyglint

    steelyglint What's a Dremel?

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    More semi nightmares!
    A certain member of this very forum came round and commented that the pump was very noisy...and to his credit I guess it was. After some discussion we decided it was because it was mounted on its side (although the instructions say that it is OK to do this).

    Several hours work and one completely redone waterloop and we have the results. The pump is now nice and quiet so I guess we were correct :thumb:

    I have moved the pump from it's original position at the rear of the case to the bottom of the 5.25" bays and it is now mounted flat but still on the silicone bushes on which it was mounted previously.
    The loop is changed so the drive cooler gets the coolant first as I'm guessing this does not put much heat into the coolant. It then goes to the CPU, GPU and MOSFET cooler before going back to the reservoir and finally to the rad. Comments on this setup gratefully received.

    Anyway...photos of setup finished...forgot to take pics during the rebuild :duh:
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    New pump location.
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    And a couple of close up 'pimp' shots of various bits
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    Still plenty of things to do. Have some new fans on order...the SilentX ones on the rad are quiet but give very little airflow so will be replaced as will the rear exhaust fan.
    I also need to construct a way to separate the fan intake area from the exhaust area as I think it is recycling warm air a little...will also tidy up the lower area of the case. Not sure whether to use plexi or shiny metal for this...opinions?
    Still considering getting the shiny front of the drive cooler engraved.

    Hopefully more to come....but do leave a comment or two as they are all appreciated :clap:
     
  13. marauder16

    marauder16 What's a Dremel?

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    really nice and clean setup, but why so many 90 deg. turns and is there really a need to cool those mosfets with water, is it worth killing the flow?
     
  14. steelyglint

    steelyglint What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks for the comment.
    I've tried to use as few 90 deg turns as possible but without the ones you see I'd have to use huge loops of tubing which would look horrible. I also do not think the 90 deg turns actually reduce flow too much...especially as this is not a high flow rate system to begin with.

    The mosfet cooler I do think is required...the stcok fan on the graphics card blows a fair bit of air over a heatsink on the mosfets and they still used to get to 90c under load...With no airflow in that area I'd guess they would get even hotter. With the watercooler they don't even get to 60c. Also looks kind of nice :naughty:

    Still some tidying to do with the tubing and wiring so should look even better in a week or so.
     

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