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News Industry says Vista 64 not ready

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Da Dego, 15 Jan 2007.

  1. Spaceraver

    Spaceraver Ultralurker

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    That does it... Digg this article at once, broadcast it to BBC and every other news channel to get the reaction from the people... Vista is so not even getting near to my machine, i will rather kick myself in the nuts repeatedly than ever have anything like that P O S on my machine ever.. Now im really mad at Microsoft... Suck my d**k Bill..
     
  2. ComputerKing

    ComputerKing <img src="http://forums.bit-tech.net/images/smilie

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    Noooooooo !! OMG , 4GB !!! From Were ???

    Any way , The CD I bought work perfect with the VGA and sound card ! If I want to do the normal work , run the xp :D its simple

    thanks for the bad news :(

    Good luck , Bye , CK
     
  3. cjmUK

    cjmUK Old git.

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    I've been running Vista x64 for 2 months now. It's not been the easiest of routes but I much prefer it to XP x64. You get the benefits of x64 with Vista. With XP you simply how the downside of x64.

    I haven't quantified it properly but I briefly benchmarked my test installs of XP Pro x86 and Vista x86 against Vista x64, and XP was the slowest and x64 was the fastest. Not by huge margins and the tests were not entirely scientific.

    And this month seems to be when many of the h/w manufacturers are releasing better (ie substantially working) drivers. I'd recommend Vista x86 to anybody, and before long I'll probably recommend x64 also.

    But I'm enjoying being almost on the bleeding edge for the first time: E6600/PC6400RAM/7900GTO/Vista x64. And I will have been one of the very first to get Vista since I installed it on the day it was released to MSDN.

    I don't think there is an overwhelming need for anyone to move to Vista but it will be goods as people naturally migrate across.
     
  4. Da Dego

    Da Dego Brett Thomas

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    I just want to issue a slight article adjustment - DougEdey and Buzzons are correct in the fact that the CD will ship with both versions of code on it. Don't ask me why I thought otherwise, aside from the fact that I'm hella sick and it was early when I was writing this.

    My apologies and please amend to "what version will you be installing?" :) I'll change the news in one min.

    As for whether it's just a couple companies grousing - well, Intel and AMD were two of the companies - I'd say they're a big enough group to moan.
     
  5. WarMachine

    WarMachine American Swine

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    After reading the linked article, all I can say is :confused:

    Intentionally limiting or disabling the functionality of a user's hardware for the purpose of protecting "premium" content is MS shooting themselves in the foot.

    Thus far, the only real selling point of Vista (for me) was DX10. Honestly, I can do without PC games, and stick to my next-gen console for that sort of thing. I can also buy a set-top HD-DVD player to hook up to the TV and surround sound. I'm already familiarizing myself with Linux.

    Vista? No thanks. :p
     
  6. Golygus

    Golygus Minimodder

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    I shall be running Vista x86_64 on my machine on a second partition to XP (x86) until i'm happy with its stability and performance. I've had no driver issues with the betas, and even the later alphas wern't too bad.

    We know allready there is a way of copying HD-DVD's so theoretically couldn't you just play the film from your drive at full res...? Also eventually digital content is most likly going to hae to change... People will only be opressed for so long, eventually all hell is going to break lose (in my lowly opinion)

    As for 64 bit over 32 bit, its important to few things, but from my perspective, mainly Memory and the way its addressed.
     
  7. xion

    xion Minimodder

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    hmmm eye opener indeed!


    think xp/penguin combo will be with me for a while... :sigh:
     
  8. [USRF]Obiwan

    [USRF]Obiwan What's a Dremel?

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    Well i dont see anything "new and improved usefulness" added with vista except maybe areo and Directx10...

    ...eh.. wait.. just forget areo! Because THIS little program completly emulates areo on any xp system from a dx7 graphics-cart and up. So the vista required: " highend videocard with dx9 support needed to run areo application" are complete bulls**t!

    So all that vista brings is dx10. Ok... and some "style xp" themed desktop.
    Basicly you pay 300 bucks for dx10 licence.
     
  9. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg What's a Dremel?

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    :wallbash:

    That worries me and i pretty much exclusively use Linux and have no intentions of going to vista for another 6 or so years, if ever (only just "upgraded" my 2k machine to XP)
     
  10. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    I looked at that link of "emulation" but it doesn't look anywhere near as polished or smooth as Aero I'm afraid, all the aero emulators I've seen on XP don't do it justice IMHO.
     
  11. perplekks45

    perplekks45 LIKE AN ANIMAL!

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    I'll give the version a try I'll get for free from uni... 32 or 64, who cares if it's free? :D
    But I think at last '08 I'll switch to 64 anyways.
     
  12. KMS-oul

    KMS-oul You think you know me.

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    The problems with Vista are one of the contributing factors why I have gone away from being a PC gamer / Hardware enthusiast to now owning a new mac and 360. Vista takes away the flexability that the PC had to offer. I really feel sorry for the gfx card companies having to write individual drivers for each revision... long live the catalyst. I feel the only reason for DX really being exlusive for Vista and the whole Aero (which is very nice) is to sell this bucket of bolts.
     
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  13. bilbothebaggins

    bilbothebaggins What's a Dremel?

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    I find this a bit frightening I must say ...
    Good thing that I wont touch Vista for a long time anyway.
     
  14. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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    yeah the flickering in that Alt-Tab emulator is pretty awful having just installed it myself. I'll be uninstalling.
     
  15. Bladestorm

    Bladestorm What's a Dremel?

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    I can't really say I'm interested in 32 bit vista, so its more likely that if I need a new soundcard as well as a graphics card and so on just to get driver support that works, I'm more likely just to put off vista alltogether for a while longer.
     
  16. seanblee

    seanblee What's a Dremel?

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    In what way is Vista x64 'AWOL'? I've been running the 'gold' retail code here for a couple of months now with no issues to speak of...
     
  17. Ringold

    Ringold What's a Dremel?

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    I'm scratching my head a little here..

    I've tried out every release since Beta 1, always x64, both on my laptop and on my desktop.

    Beta 1 worked in both except for sound. Beta 2 improved performance, and gave me sound on my laptop, but no-go on desktop.

    RC1 improved performance again, compatibility became a non-issue, and gave me sound.

    Then I tried RTM on my desktop, and more of the same: improved performance.

    Printer driver I've had to play with a bit, and my friend across town can't get a TV card to work but is hopeful they'll release a driver soon.

    On the performance side, I do use a couple apps (Far Cry too, but there were a couple other games with x64) that make use of x64 to improve performance.

    Tack on to that increased security built in to the x64 build versus the 32bit build, and.... I don't see what all the fuss is about. I'd not hesitate to tell the average joe to use 32bit for now, but any enthusiast should very easily be able to handle 64bit and the very rare issues that would crop up from using it.
     
  18. metarinka

    metarinka What's a Dremel?

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    yah I'm using a xp 64 and I haven't had the slightest bit of drivers problems, in fact the only programs that haven't seemed to pop up again are mal-ware /spyware thru internet explorer. this is the most stable PC I've ever had, that article if 100% true is scary but at the same time seems like it would destroy it's consumer base so much that there would be no reason TO goto vista, save for dx10
     
  19. robbybertu15

    robbybertu15 <b>needs a job</b>

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    Hopefully someone can get DX10 working on something else besides Vista.
     
  20. overdosedelusion

    overdosedelusion I mostly come at night, mostly..

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    Scarey, Didn't have any ideas about these until I read this thing. Makes me extremely hesistent to buy it even for DX10. Eye opener indeed :( sucks for us, what did microsoft think they would gain by any of this :sigh:

    EDIT:
    Lol who gave robbybertu that title :p
     
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