I will be getting it, probably at the end of the year, as I won't be upgrading or doing anything to my computer when I am at uni, so want to have Vista as it may be needed. Probably delve into Linux too.
Actually, the Ultimate Edition is pretty inexpensive. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832116213 I don't know, I was planning to get it for my next rig, but reading that one article about DRM, I think I'll wait it out a bit, for more reviews and such.
I'll wait a while.. watch... See what problems arise, if any. I want to make sure that whe I switch, I do it once, cleanly, with no hassle.
I have not reinstalled yet on my copy of Business. There are a few bugs with WMP that I've noticed however. 1) Sometimes it'll spike to 100% CPU useage after it's been on for a while (this may be related to problem 2, and I believe it's a problem with data leaks in WMP) 2) Around the same time that WMP spikes to 100% useage RUNDLL32 will stall and crash. This is picked up by windows and I submit a bug report every time, if I don't restart then it'll happen every 30 mins or so, if I do restart it'll be OK.
I've said I'm going to wait. I currently use Linux for everything except for games; for which I have a Windows 2000 install. Thats the only thing that would make me get Vista, a DX10 game. I'm going to hold out for as long as possible though
I am almost definitely planning to upgrade to Vista Ultimate on my laptop (OEM should be fine as I most definitely wont be changing the motherboard). But I am going to wait until Creative and Logitech driver support increases as I have products from both those companies that I want to use with my laptop. The laptop itselft is Vista compatible, so I hope drivers for it wont be too much of a problem. I also have to think about whether I want to 64 bit or not. I also want the price for flash drives to come down so that I can get a 4gb drive with low seek times to use with the Vista boost feature thingy.
Yes, but that's an OEM version. Upgrade your motherboard and your license dies with it. If you don't care about that, then you're right that it's a much cheaper way to go.
I not planning to get "Vista" --- I'll stick to FreeBSD In the style of Donald E. Knuth: I hope to die before I have to use Microsoft Vista.
i have heard some rumors that it will come in December. I have just gotten all my computers over on legal XP licenses. (yaay for me!) Everything is is running fine and stable, so i'll hold until i find the need to get a new desktop. (i can't run vista on this one, as i'm running 3GFX cards, and two of the doesn't support DX10 ) Upgrading will be to expensive, as i need a new mobo (with CPU, RAM, PSU and so on...) This is because i can't find any PCI cards that support DX10. i'm currently running RC2 on a laptop, but I'll go back to XP soon. (or mabye i'll go for some sort of linux?)
Looking at the horrible new "clean" install system, you appear to have three choices if you build your own systems, If you've got a legal retail copy of XP or 2k, get Upgrade Vista, If you've got OEM XP, get OEM or Full Vista - the Upgrade version needs an activated and validated XP install to run and your OEM XP may fail on the next mobo upgrade. On OEM v Full, if you only change mobos every 2-3 years it may work out cheaper to go OEM at 1/3 the price of Full, and buy a new copy as needed. Sell the old copy with the old mobo.
I got a new OEM copy of XP MCE early this month and with it came a coupon for a free upgrade to Vista Home Premium if ordered before the end of March. So I have ordered it and it should be here in a few weeks. I'm not going to install it though until a few updates and maybe a service pack have been issued. Anyone on this forum old enough to remember when Windows95 was first inflicted?
I've played around with the betas, not greatly impressed. It's great at giving a false sense of security, but MS really blew it by still defaulting you to an admin account (unlike Linux and OS X) so you only have to hit 'allow' instead of typing in a password to elevate permissions. Which doesn't matter for me because I don't get spyware by clicking yes to everything, but it means that the effort was completely in vein for the 99% of users out there that have that exact problem. Otherwise, even the leaked final version that I've played around with isn't that great. A tiny bit faster perhaps, but it still feels a bit sluggish overall and quite unstable by my standards, and still with rather spotty driver support last I checked. Maybe SP1? I think I'll Ubuntize my school laptop for now (since for some reason I can't slipstream on the drivers I need, even though I haven't had a JBOD SATA driver problem like this since about 2002) as Vista just isn't doing it for me and OSx86 isn't working properly either. I only really use my Macbook Pro now, though, so it doesn't greatly matter. I was going to stick it on my fileserver which is currently running XP (which works well enough for network shares to just me, at least), but it doesn't work nearly as well even though filesharing was initially much better when I tried it on my school laptop. It completely broke sharing with Macs though, in the most idiotic way imaginable (forcing computer\user for the login credentials instead of just user, so I absolutely can't authenticate it). So, in short, no, I won't be getting Vista any time soon. No benefits at all for me, even excluding the insane cost. I'm sure that eventually if I still have a Windows machine around, it'll get upgraded for some reason or another, but not anytime soon. Holy crap. Then again, I don't actually keep porn on my hard drive (which I'm sure is at least partly a factor of not having the space, even with over a terabyte). I hope you've got a few pics of kleenex boxes to go with it
I think Vista runs well, is stable for me, and also pretty quick, I already have it, but i will be getting Ultimate on day of Release. Sam
As much evil as the DRM in Vista is and how it is going to be the "end of the world as we know it" as many doomsday here-sayers state, its here to stay - and we cant do anything about it. For gaming, Vista is the only choice - unless you want downgrade to consoles such as the 360 or PS3 based on last generation chipsets (NVIDIA's 79xx and ATI's X19xx series). Once game developers develop games for DirectX 10, it will become apperant how many advantages Vista holds. Once game developers start requiring you to have DX10 to run the games, it will leave XP, Linux, and Mac OS users in the dirt about 30 years behind in technology. In other words, I sure hate to be a Linux, or Mac user right now... they are gonna get pwned. Unless they hack / crack DirectX 10 and remove the DRM that it uses to interface with the Vista Kernel - but thats against the DMCA if they even try!
You're seriously underestimating what dedicated Windows-haters are willing to do for games. Which no longer includes me - games have become enough of a pain in the arse to get working on Windows (by which point, they're less than not fun), and I've got other things I enjoy that are much better uses of my time. But to each his own. And considering how few games even require DX9 right now, I don't think it'll be that much of an issue anytime soon. I'm pretty sure that the Source engine supports back to DX7. Regardless, DX10 isn't protected by DRM (and, thus, the DMCA is completely irrelevant), it's just woven in too tightly to port over to XP. Even if it were protected in such a way, it wouldn't be DRM, as last I checked, DirectX isn't a purchased medium.
