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Scratch Build – In Progress tf2 heavy tribute 2-07-08

Discussion in 'Project Logs' started by dogneely, 1 Feb 2008.

  1. dogneely

    dogneely sup

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    for some reason my log got messed up so im reposting it

    i reccently became interseted in moding and this is going to be my first mod so wish me luck

    my idea for this mod was to make a tf2 related mod
    i didn't want to decorate an exsisting case so i was going to make something from the game
    my only options were
    the heavys mini gun
    the engie's sentry
    and the pyros flame thrower

    so i decided to do the mini gun

    incase you have no idea what im talking about or dont know what tf2 is here are some pics

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    ok so the first thing i did was remove all the parts from the old dell case i had
    i used this in stead of new parts since i have no money

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    here are some pictures of the case and what it looked like empty

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    this is the mother board and the other parts that i took out

    so after starting i had many ideas on how to do this over all i decided that i would put the mother board and most of the rest in the ammo bucket/tube

    but making a circular pc case was something that i was stumped on so had 2 ideas that might actually work the first was to makea wire frame with hard ware cloth and then cover with fiber glass

    but my second idea came to me as soon as i saw it it was to take a bucket as the frame and wrap fiber glass around it to make the relative shape

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    here is the ordinary bucket that chlorine and other chemicals usaly come in

    so now that i have an idea of what to do, im going to use the exsisting mother board panel and attach the mother board to it and that to acrilic for strength which will all go inside the bucket

    first i removed all the panels by drilling the rivots out

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    here is all of the different panels that i took apart
    i wonder if my warrenty still aplies

    after geting the panel i needed, i had to cut it down in order to fit inside the bucket
    i cut it with a oxyacetylene cutting torch and then finished it of using a grider
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    here is the finished product
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    and here it is inside the bucket
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    since my acrilic and fiber glass has not come in this is as far as i could get

    due to the fact that i have school at the soonest expecct there to be a new one every week

    and on a final note sorry for the pictures in my next post and the ones after they will be a uniform size
     
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  2. dogneely

    dogneely sup

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    good news and bad news

    the good is i got the supplies so i will be getting more done

    and there are actulally 2 bad things
    the first is i could not get acrilic but im using some wood instead
    and the second is when they moved this post all you guys that subscribed were un subscribed i guess
     
  3. widmod

    widmod Minimodder

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    such a picture should be in every first post in the project log section
    this is why you first log was moved

    the second try is a good start now nice idea :clap:
     
  4. dogneely

    dogneely sup

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    ok sry but that didnt make much sense
     
  5. BobbyMParr

    BobbyMParr GameDemon

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    he means they want more progress and pictures when you post the worklog thats why it was moved the first time
     
  6. dogneely

    dogneely sup

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    ok so after i got the mother board ready i started to set it up
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    so now i need to cut some slots for the wood to support the mother board

    so first i measured the board on to the wood
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    then i had to cut it
    heres my weapon of choice
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    and the finished product
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    then i had to remove the rigdes with some razors and huge scissors
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    and done
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    i few random pictures of my dog
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    now mark the slots
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    this what i used to cut it
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    first drill a hole
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    then through the hole cut along the lines
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    finished
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    and all layed out
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    well thats it next week ill start with the fiberglass
     
  7. dogneely

    dogneely sup

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    sorry for not posting for about 3 weeks but i have had many problems but i dont want to bore you so i will tell you a very few of the problems i have been having

    well 3 weeks ago i had finals and lots of homework

    2 weeks ago my dad made me wait because he wasnt at home and wanted to be there to help me

    last week he came home we worked on it and he screwed it up horribly because he didnt listen to me

    and this week there is three things
    he is now away again
    we are waiting on new fiberglass
    and finaly i lost the camera which for once was my fault and not his

    but i assure you that the case is fine we just have to redo the fiber glass
    and that when he returns and we get the fiber glass i will start posting again
    and finally when i find the camera i will put up the progress between last one and before the horrible screw up


    on the final note sorry that this was so long and sorry for no posts
     
  8. dogneely

    dogneely sup

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  9. Macros_the_Black

    Macros_the_Black Yup.. I'm a f-ing reptile

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    Hullo, I've been following this thread from the shadows and I'm sorry I didn't post earlier... I though I had, remember thinking an answer to post #7, but I probably was too tired at the moment to post and though "I'll post tomorrow when someone else has"... but no one did apparently, and thus the log didn't show up on my "
    New Subscribed Threads" list, and I forgot (I forget everything that's not in front of my nose).

    Anyway, I always enjoy reading scratch build logs, and this is no exception. Sorry to hear about the screw up, but reading the other log, it looks like you're well back on track again. =)
    About no one commenting... it might have something to do with the low quality photos (that usually puts me off), try using a support when taking pictures.. like resting the camera on the back of a chair... also, I think that the amount of comments will increase exponentially with the number of updates you post. It's always a bit slow in the beginning.
    I think this build is really interesting and I look forward to seeing it evolve and reading about how you solve different construction problems etc. Don't let the lack of comments put you down, after all, it's "just" a bucket with a board in it so far... it's more really, but you get my drift. I'm confident that when you start showing more progress, like the fiberglass and steel mesh work ppl will speak up.

    Keep up the good work mate! Keep posting! :thumb:
     
  10. cyberspyder

    cyberspyder Canuck

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    Ummm ok...
     
  11. Ninja_182

    Ninja_182 Enginerd!

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    Reported'd!

    I second Macros_the_Black on the project looking interesting, I however only found it today, consider me subscribed if you decide to keep us updated.
     
  12. Dreaming

    Dreaming What's a Dremel?

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    I only found this today and wow, looked at your other thread, very exciting!

    But I just tend to lurk on the forums, but certainly something original and great to see modding done on a budget :D.

    There was $0 scratch mod ages ago you might want to look it up to give you some ideas on doing things on a budget... it's all about being extra creative! That's why I love it - there's certainly nothing wrong with getting laser cut grills or whatever, they look awesome... but there's something that makes me grin like a child when I see people modding cases with stuff they found lying around...

    Keep at it! It's brilliant!

    One idea would be when you get to that stage to have a small switch on it that runs a small servo (these can be picked up pretty cheaply... http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=3739&C=Froogle&U=3739&T=Alias&MA=servo) that runs the minigun!! :D

    Also, awesome dog. I think featuring him in the mod proper would make it even more unique ;)
     
  13. Macros_the_Black

    Macros_the_Black Yup.. I'm a f-ing reptile

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    That would be really cool!!! Ooh! and leds or lasers (the latter can be salvaged from cheap laser pointers, and if the barrels are hollow through their whole length, you only need one laser mounted in the body of the gun) in the barrels that light up when they get to top (or bottom) position like on a real gattling gun... except for the fact that a real one fires bullets instead of light. <=D
    The leds / laser feature would be easy to hook up, purely mechanical, no electronic skills required. =D

    Come on dogneely, pleeease make the barrels spin and shoot laser!!! It would be so awesome!!! :rock:

    [edit]
    This really fired up my brain... I'm getting ideas on how to build the spinning barrel mechanism... a round metal rod (or pipe, depending on strength, weight and size requirements), ball bearings, belt wheels + belt, servo/electric motor, ... this would be so much fun constructing!!! 8D¨ *rubbing hands together*
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  14. Ninja_182

    Ninja_182 Enginerd!

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    Nobody can afford to fire the real real bullets that thing takes :p

    Plastic would be much better, just because theres going to be a few of them and setting that kind of mass spinning would create interesting forces. It would be better to have a single LED in line with the top barrel, so when the barrel passes light shines down it, easier than having an LED in each and making them light when passing the top.
     
  15. Macros_the_Black

    Macros_the_Black Yup.. I'm a f-ing reptile

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    Hehe.. the barrels should be plastic off course, to make the whole construction as light as possible... it's only the arbor that should be a metal rod or pipe for strength (the whole barrels part will weigh down on it). I was only talking about the driving mechanism, not the whole barrels thing. =D I would even recommend not using particle board for the round pieces on the barrel, but instead making a hollow disk out of plastic sheets and perhaps some plastic drain pipe (or something) to keep the weight down.
    [edit] ...or fiber glass... dogneely have done some of that in his other log. [/edit]
    That exactly was what I saying about just having one laser in the gun body. I'm a bit concerned that mounting a single regular led way back in the gun body, won't make the muzzle flash bright enough. Hmm, perhaps a laser beam in the middle and a ring of bright leds arround it, this way you get both the bullet beams and the muzzle flash. =D I guess some experimentation is needed to find the optimal visual effect.

    [off topic]
    It's amazing how often I am miss understood on forums.... but I'm getting used to it now... I've begun to think that I don't think like other ppl.. I might even be a little crazy, lol. (jk) :p
    You see I try to not explain everything in minute detail, cause I'm afraid I would offend ppl, them thinking I think they are stupid (which I don't), and in the process I make them think that I'm stupid instead, lol! ...besides I don't want to take away _all_ the fun of the design process either, cause I'm afraid I could if I didn't hold back. Every time I see a problem like this I itch to make CAD drawings and design proposals. <=D
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    I'm not saying it would be good proposals, but I _might_ accidently propose the same design the modder had in mind, and thus taking away his/her joy of presenting it him/her self. Hehe, this is getting wordy.. I should shut up now.
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  16. dogneely

    dogneely sup

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    wow thnx for all the comments i guess ill transfer my new stuff back over here and by the way my cusin designs game controlers and we were going to work to gether to put buttons in the mini gun so you could actullay play tf2 and of course the motors to spin the motors


    so here is the other stuff

    ok before you read this i have a few disclaimers the pictures you see of the fiber glass being put on is not what is actually on it because it wasnt strong enough the carbon fiber that is actuaaly on is much thicker and stronger

    and second i realize that i do this in a very sloopy way like useing the foam and duct tape but since this is my first one and i dont have money please just accept the way i did it


    well first the board was having problems staying in
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    so i duct taped it on
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    so in order to get it to look right i started adding a frame so it will be the right shape

    here is the wire im using
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    then i folded it up into a thick strip
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    here it is wrapped around and taped on
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    then i coverd it with sealent foam or what ever its called but it comes in an aerosol can and expands
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    then i wrapped the wire frame around, two layers of foam and wire, then added plenty of ductape to stop foam from coming though the holes and to secure it on the case
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    and some more random pictures
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    ok i added some more wire frame to make it the right length

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    here is the fiber glass wraped around but remember this didnt work and i up graded to carbon fiber the same stuff used on high perfomance cars
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    the high strength resign
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    dip it in and soak it all over
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    and the finished product
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    ok iknow that wasnt much but dont be disapointed

    incase you are wondering about the duct tape dont worry that was just to hold in the stuffing all the strength and support is in the carbon fiber which is two layers

    ok moving on ive made some more progress i have made the covers for the case
    they are fastened
    i have made the brace for the hard drive
    i have wired configured and secured every thing in side of the computer
    in fact its up and running and every thing is completed pc and case wise now all i have left is the mini gun part
    and just to test that every thing works fine i am writing this on the mini gun computer so now i know it works fine

    how ever i have two disapointments
    one another camera problem
    and two its an old computer so i cant kick your arse in tf2 while on my minigun pc


    so sry and i might post some crapy cell phone pictures later
     
  17. Macros_the_Black

    Macros_the_Black Yup.. I'm a f-ing reptile

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    Welcome back! ^_^
    Integrated came controller and spinning barrels, who-ho! =D
    So what's next, a load of bondo work to smooth the surfaces before painting, or have you done that already?

    [Photography tip]
    Make sure you have _plenty_ of light when taking pictures with the cell phone to lessen the noise. If you get camera shake in your pics, use some kind of support.. a simple broomstick will help a bit. Just hold the camera/cell phone against the broomstick with both hands and keep your feet wide apart. This should eliminate/lessen camera shake due to pressing the button and also any 'high frequency' kind that originates from the muscles. It should also lessen the any swaying movement of your body, since you essentially form a tripod with your body and the broomstick. Alternatively use the back of a chair like I suggested earlier.
    [/Photography tip]

    Keep it up!
     
  18. Ninja_182

    Ninja_182 Enginerd!

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    Duct tape is underrated as a modding tool. Im curious how you are going to mount the barrel half to the bottom, and wether or not you have thought about making a stand for it.

    Very interested indeed how the controller will be integrated, I hope you have considered a very easy to reach medic button :p
     
  19. Fozzy

    Fozzy What's a Dremel?

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    That's the most backwards way I've every seen for using fiberglass....
     
  20. dogneely

    dogneely sup

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    yes im making an acrilic stand for the barels and ammo drum and im probably going to use apoxy to attach and the stand will support but im still thinking about ways to attach if ya have ideas id love your help thnx
     

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