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Storage Time for SSD? Real life differences?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Kyocera, 6 Oct 2009.

  1. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    As the longest time I have to wait for anything to load is perhaps 15 seconds (excluding my 45 sec boot time) I'll wait until I can get a 250GB SSD for the same price as a 1TB HDD.

    I don't think it will be too long.
     
  2. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    Thanks :) :) :) :)

    I was just eyeing a Crucial M225; 128GB; it's much cheaper than the OCZ Vertex and as far I can see it's just as fast and good.
    Apparently is just a little faster than Kingston V+ and the price is the same (Continental Europe).
    Do you know for a good review??
     
  3. hodgy100

    hodgy100 Minimodder

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    my birthday is coming up soon so i will get hold of a SSD then, only want to use it as a boot drive with some core programs (web browser, office etc) though.

    So would you say 30GB is enough or would i be better off going for a 60GB one?
     
  4. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    60Gb is a must!!
     
  5. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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  6. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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  7. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    The M225 performs almost identically to the Vertex, and uses the same firmware updates. Vertex users will receive the updates earlier and have access to beta firmware, but the M225 is cheaper.

    The Kingston V+ drives perform well, largely (the standard V series is dreadful), but are significantly slower than the Vertex and M225 in random read/write operations.

    Issue 74 of CustomPC reviews all three drives, plus many others.
     
  8. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    Are they saying anything about this 64GB Samsung, SSD, PB22-J MLC-Flash, 2.5", 1 x SATA 3Gb/s, Read 220MB/s, Write 200MB/s mentioned above?

    And how is the list??
    from best to worse?
    (pity I cannot get hold of this magazine; yesterday I was in the Capital and I forgot to look for magazines)
     
  9. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    The only Samsung in the test is the PM800 256gb model.

    They gave the Premium award to the M225 and the Approved award went to the Vertex.

    There were a whole bunch of other Indilinx-based drives, which perform similarly well, but they were a bit more expensive.

    The indilinx drives were not the only ones to perform well, the Corsair P128 wasn't too far behind but, as with the V+ series, it was off the pace in random operations.
    The 160gig Intel G2 looks like a fast drive, but it's expensive and CPC say it suffered from high latency in some tests.

    Other than that, there were a couple of turbonutter entries from Photofast and the Vertex EX that were in the 'silly money' bracket.

    The main concern for non-indilinx drives was lack of firmware support, which marked down those models quite heavily in the features score.
     
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  10. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    Heavenly summary! :) :) :)

    Now I must convince myself to open my purse; I always pay attention that its hinges all well rusted, so that every "screek" reminds me to reconsider.
    :thumb:
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  11. David

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    Performance scores only, features and value not taken into account.

    Kingston V -- 24 nuff said
    Intel X25-M G2 -- 71 High latency issues
    Kingstom M -- 73 rebadged 80GB X25-M
    Kingston V+ -- 73
    Corsair P128 -- 76 lack of firmware support
    Corsair P256 -- 78 lack of firmware support
    Samsung PM800 -- 78 lack of firmware support
    OCZ Summit -- 78 lack of firmware support
    OCZ Vertex -- 80
    OCZ Vertex Turbo -- 80 More money but no faster
    Patriot Torqx -- 80
    G.Skill Falcon -- 80
    Crucial M225 -- 80
    OCZ Agility -- 82 Multiple source chips
    Corsair X128 -- 82 £50 more than the M225
    Photofast G-Monster PCI -- 84 silly money
    Photofast G-Monster -- 89 silly money
    OCZ Vertex EX -- 91 silly money
     
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  12. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    Now I understand why there was criticism from Bit-Tech over my Intel Postville advice.

    I must say however, that the majority of the tech press has found the 80GB capacity and read performance of Intel to be just what the market needs; so the shops got cleaned out of Intel G2 SSDs.

    And frankly I don't know if it has sense to wait longer, on SanDisc and their X4, considering the when and the failure question.

    (uff, I had to correct the worst writing mistakes three times; not wanting to get another lecture from Bit-Tech stuff about grammar; I once used a noun instead of an adjective (I had in mind to write something else, then Biba closed the the thread and I was unable to correct; next day I got an entire 800 word lemonade. "No, it was a rhetorical question. Speaking with rhetorical intent is different to the use of rhetoric. Rhetoric itself refers simply to the skill of speaking as part of an effort to achieve a particular aim, while speaking rhetorically refers to using a specific style of question that's structured to negate face value and achieve an aim with minimal crosstalk and without requiring an answer.").
     
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  13. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    Hmm, the 64GB PB22-j has 220 write, but 'only' 120 read, rather than the advertised 200 on Scan. The 128GB has 220/200 as it uses faster nand (and possibly a new controller?)

    How about Corsair's X64, with 234read/165write at £145?
     
  14. Guest-16

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    It's not new, it's just another Indilinx drive. £145 is pretty good money, and you can probably flash it with OCZ firmware to give you TRIM.
     
  15. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    The Corsair X64 costs more on The Continent than Kingston V+60 or the Crucial 60.
    However there are differences:

    Crucial 60: 200 read/150 write 150euro
    crucial 120 250 read/190 write 300 euro

    kingston V+ 60 220/140 150euro
    kingston V+ 120 220/170 300 euro

    corsair X64 220 read/135 write 170 euro

    From what I have heard until now, the best selection would be:

    for 64GB Crucial 150euro-130GBP, slower than Kingston
    ( Kingston V+ 150euro-140GBP; lacks firmware support)
    for 128GB Crucial 300euro-260GBP
    Intel G2 80GB 190euro-175GBP
     
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  16. Guest-16

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    The stated numbers are almost *completely* arbitrary and should be only used as a guide.
     
  17. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    I was using your review for Kingston 64, Custom PC's for Crucial 128GB and the nice magazines across Europe for Intel.
    (like hybrid tomatoes, you know)
     
  18. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    :thumb:

    I thought you were just pulling them off the box! haha
     
  19. TomD22

    TomD22 What's a Dremel?

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    Well, I guess that's the kind of thing I need to hear to convince me :D
     
  20. TomD22

    TomD22 What's a Dremel?

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    What do you mean by multiple source chips? I was just checking some etailers and the 120GB Agility seems to be about £50-£80 cheapert than the other 120/128GB drives around...curious why, if that score suggests it performs as well or better than them...

    edit: I just read this: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...ives-hdd-/ocz-agility-120gb-ssd-642551/review which makes me wonder.

    Overclock.co.uk have this for £229 atm, which is like £50 cheaper than the other Indilinx 120GB drives. There has to be a reason for the cost I guess :S
     
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