Hardware 4th Dream PC unveiled - Kobalt Daedalus

Yep, you're dead right there. I believe SCAN also stated this in their writeup of the Jellyfish. I'm sure Kobalt would be happy to put some more RAM in there, but it would be at the cost of some overclocking on the CPU.

 

Similar spec maybe, I bet they could build a system the same as yours for a lot less as well but this is not "Build it at home PC 2009", its "Dream PC 2009";-) Look at the chassis alone - I recon the case must cost over a grand by itself, someone else said carbon panels are probably ££££ (dunno exact dimensions but prob over £300 per panel from what i've seen on the internet), acrylic TEC boxes etc etc etc.

 

Isn't this competition supposed to be about 'innovation', 'originality', 'performance' and essentially producing something the general enthusiast couldn't do for himself. Sure TEC is smart but is it actually any different to water cooling, looks very much like standard water cooling to me, and performance figures are the same as for a standard water cooled setup, so why the extra £4k!!?? It looks nice though, but then i could buy a lot fo things that look nicer than a PC for a lot less than £10k. The Cryo has its issues but at least im getting an awesome clock speed for my money...

Having said that all these guys sink a ton of money, time and headaches into developing this stuff to entertain us and should be applauded for their efforts!!

As for Scan, i'd need sunglasses and headache pills to keep that in the corner of my room, well, what were the judging panel thinking of?!...

 

I've only seen one low-res pic of the Scan entry but GOD was it ever ugleh!

 

What's the point in having a 4.7ghz overclock when they had to turn the hyperthreading off to (assumedly) make it stable? Plus, the cryo actually LOST to the Kobalt machine in WPrime and Cinebench by quite a margin.

Plus if you look at the temperatures of the SCAN and Kobalt (especially, seeing as they re-wired and essentially, overclocked their TEC units) machines, the figures speak for themselves. Add to that the fact that phase-change units make the system sound like it has a small, aerospace grade turbine in it, i just can't see how anyone can justify purchasing the Cryo PC.

 

Good point! My guess is that at -40C vs the slightly lower than ambient cooling of the Kobalt stability isn't an issue HT on or off as they have had these systems at 5GHz i believe so 4.7GHz should be relatively modest, would be nice to have it verified though. I read in another CPC article that HT is one of those things that works, for gaming loads of people were turning it off as it added no benefit. WPrime and Cinebench do benefit from more cores, so logically its winning because it has 8 cores vs the Cryo's 4. Cos clock for clock, the Cryo should clearly always be quicker as it demolished them all in the CPC Image and Multitasking Bench scores, and the memory is clocked higher iirc, ie so why wouldn't it be? Pity they didn't think to turn HT on for all PC's?? Seems the obvious thing to do cant compare apples to pears etc...probably cba syndrome kicking in.

 

It's not a case of cba syndrome at all - we didn't enable HT on the Cryo PC because that's how they configured it, and we were reviewing their system, i.e. their choice of hardware/software/settings, not trying to find the best overclock. If we started changing settings then we wouldn't be reviewing a Cryo PC product anymore.

 

Was being flippant actually...

 

No probs... it's pretty hard to tell on a forum unless you know the person writing pretty well.

 

I still don't think any of these systems is worth as much as it costs. They sure are amazing builds and I'd kill for the hardware in them but building it yourself is just so much nicer.

It's good to see what out there though, if for inspirational reasons only.

 

Having looked at all the pcs again and again, i think custom pc have been really biased as this should be the winner for so many reasons. Scans is ugly and doesnt even have incredible hardware, this case> and its just awesome, i hope next year its fair

 

I have to agree...the "minus points" that were brought up were pretty lame, and easily overcome. tbh, ANY watercooled pc needs a certain amount of maintenance, dust being the major culprit...but this seems as tho it would be the easiest to clean!...if there was any major probs with the airflow, surely the temperatures would show it....and spillages! omfg! thats just crazy talk!!!!

Imo, it has the most innovative case design, and although the components are similar to Scan's, there is much more power to the overclocking..even the tecs were overclocked...hence the second psu (shame on cpc for not making that clear!). Considering it is £2k LESS than the "wellyboot", i think i'd be able to afford usb hub!

Kobalt for winner.....I demand a recount!

 

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Revolt!

 

okay so since almost every rig listed in this top rigs have almost the same hardware and TEC system, I have one question what is that TEC system called and where can I find one, or if I have to build one can someone link to the parts?

 

All the TEC parts came from Coolit in Canada
I believe that both Scan and Kobalt had custom systems made.

 

Yup, we first started looking into this specific solution about 6 months ago, most of the components are the same as can be found on a CoolIT Elite or Boreas. Ours is differernt to SCANs in that we used modified control software and power distribution to increase the performance. If anyone is interested we can provide all the components seperately for a self build or supply a pre-built system depending on the power and space requirements

 

I would certainly be interested in such information and links to the products, that would be awesome.

 

They must be listening, watching, whatever:

http://www.cryopc.co.uk/dream_pc.htm

so we have an answer, not surprisingly 4.7GHz with HT enabled, it's a clear winner.