Graphics Which card????

either

Sapphire ATI Radeon 9500 Atlantis 128MB DDR DVI/TV (AGP) - Retail
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Graphics_and_Video_56.html 3rd from bottom.

or the

Abit Siluro Geforce4 Ti4200-8X 128M OTES AGP, DDR,
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?action=info&p=29260&t=00&l=1&AvdID=1&CatID=&GrpID=&s=pl

which do u think would be the best

neon85

 

I have to go with the 9500 because you can run AA without dropping 20fps. If I were to buy a card tomorrow, that's the card I would shoot for.

Of course, if you're in no hurry. Give a couple months for the gffx to hit shelves and prices will drop

 

dont get sapphire, i was really disspointed when i got my radeon 9000 pro thru, all it had was the card and a driver disk, no instructions manual or anything and the box was half crushed

 

I've never seen the need for an instructions manual for a gfx card so thats no huge loss. You save money by not having bundled rubbish and the crushed box would be down to the shipping not the manufacturer.

 

Plz i need more stuff i really dont no which of these to get, i have really got to get this in the next week so i can not wait for the GFFX to come out (only on 8mb atm)

anywho more info ill love u forever.

neon85

 

I think the basic 9500 (non-Pro) is slower than the Ti4200?

If thats the case then I'd save the extra and get a 9500 pro, or get the Ti4200.

 

Well think if it was the 1st bit of hardware you had ever brought, and you get it to put into your TIME pc, and u have no clue what to do with it? then its flipping stupid, sorry but complietly disagree with you.

 

Prior to building this pc, the only thing I'd done was install a new stick of RAM.
I bought most of this OEM so the only manual I had (or needed) was for my motherboard.

Anyway, were both entitled to our own opinion so lets not drag this off topic

Neon, if it was the 9500 Pro then I'd go for that, but I'm not sure about the performance of the standard version.
If your looking at the OTES I assume you want to overclock?

 

overclock whats that???

hehe yes i would be overclocking it + what i do like about the Abit that it does look damn cool

hmmm i think its going to be that one (abit) now is there anywhere that does it cheaper in the UK then http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?...ID=&GrpID=&s=pl this place where it is a total price of £153,27


just like to say that u guys have been great as always thanx for the help

neon85

 

theoverclockingstore.co.uk do the OTES for around £0.60 more, but you get free delivery so it probably works out a few quid cheaper.

Looks to be a nice card

 

go for the 9500 pro, considering it can beat a ti4600....as for sapphire not coming with anything...isnt that the whole point of buying OEM?

 

I think its just the standard verison, not the Pro.

 

yes it is with the money i got i can not afford the 9500pro

neon85

 

Theoverclockingstore.co.uk have a Connect3D Radeon 9500 PRO for only 60p more than the GF4 OTES (+ you get free delivery).

 

Hmmmm... This is what PC Pro says:

Test System: AMD Athlon XP 1900+, Asus A7V266-E, 256MB DDR266 RAM

3D performance 3D Winmark 2000 WinXP 1024x768x32 Bit(Direct X 7.0)

ti4200: 277 frames/s
r9500: 248 frames/s

3D performance Quake 3 Arena WinXP 1024x768x32 Bit (Open GL)

ti 4200: 179 frames/s
r9500: 160 frames/s

3D performace 3D Mark 2001SE WinXP 1024x768x32 Bit (Direct X 8.1)

ti 4200: 9119 points
r9500: 9365 points

Highend 3D performance Spec Viewperf Awadvs 4 WinXP 1280x1024x32 Bit (Open GL)

ti 4200: 103 frames/s
r9500: 108 frames/s

Overall the ti4200 just wins by a few frames, however the radeon9500 is better in more advanced applications. I would go for the radeon! And have you read this?
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22847


Ohhh... This is my 100th post btw! cheers!

 

The OTES is actually quite a poor overclocker according to this review of 12 different 128mb 8x agp Ti4200's.

 

Quake 3 has always been a winning benchmark for nVidia. It just runs very well on their cards. While the engine is used for many games, it doesn't reflect overall performance very well.

Also, was that a 9500 or a 9500 Pro?
There's quite a large performance difference.

 

Pretty sure that it was just the 9500... not the pro...

 

PCFormat gave the "Abit Siluro Geforce4 Ti4200-8X 128M OTES AGP, DDR" A steling review, got about 95%. I also have an ABIT mobo + GFX card, and i have never had any major problems with them! And the OTES Cooling system is meant to be just superb for like cooling anything !!!!

I would go for that, also sapphire are like pretty crap usually well not crap, but not great Abit are usually up the top there

 

With the 9500, you can play around a bit and make it a 9700

And the ati cards can take AA without whining, unlike the nvidia cards...