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Modding Project: DIY CNC - V3 Reinforced Z Axis

Discussion in 'Modding' started by lenne0815, 16 Dec 2009.

  1. lenne0815

    lenne0815 What has been seen cannot be unseen

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    Popably, but where would be the point in welding it ?

    so, a massive update here, managed to install the x axis :D

    Drilling side panels which hold the x later on

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    Finished holder for the router

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    Assembled

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    A friend of mine finishing the plates

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    Cutting threads / drilling the z axis middle plate

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    first x axis plate in place !

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    Cutting out bits of the angle connectors ( they would get in the way as u can see in later pics )

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    Assembled x axis

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    X axis Ballscrew mounted ( thx jav :D )

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    closeup of a bearing ( jav, whats the name for this one ? :D )

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    Whole x axis mounted, yay :D

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    Thats it for today, i had to order some new parts, so slow progression untill the middle of next week...
     
  2. talladega

    talladega I'm Squidward

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    that is a flange bearing.

    :thumb:
     
  3. Cheapskate

    Cheapskate Insane? or just stupid?

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    Looking pretty solid there.
    I'm amazed no one has made cast aluminum parts for this kind of thing. -Like they make for the surface of a table saw or router. Something like that would take a serious chunk out of the cost of a table cnc, and would probably sell like crazy.
     
  4. lenne0815

    lenne0815 What has been seen cannot be unseen

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    I think the problem there would be that theres no real "one size fits all" if u have a look around all of the custom routers u can buy are higly different in build and purpose aswell, dunno... but for example the spindle holder is a prefab part it has a standardised mount ( euro 43 ) and some holes / threads so it will fit some suction parts etc...
     
  5. LooseNeutral

    LooseNeutral What's a Dremel?

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    Okay. Just found this log and read from start.:jawdrop: Just to see you build this ( as well as it's little brother! ) has got me 1st wanting to see the final, and 2nd I can't wait to see the projects you're going to build using this monster, considering all the skill it took to cook this up! :thumb: Many thanks
     
  6. lenne0815

    lenne0815 What has been seen cannot be unseen

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    Thanks Neutral !

    I really hope i can start soon with my first case, already ordered some fibreglass and carbon for it :D
     
  7. talladega

    talladega I'm Squidward

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    once you got this done you should make an exact parts list so we can all build one too! :)
     
  8. lenne0815

    lenne0815 What has been seen cannot be unseen

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    Hey, dont go for my intellectual Property :D i could pre made this machine and sell it as a whole, but right now its already pretty expensinse ( just the parts alone ) so im not sure this one still fits into the "hobby" category ;)
     
  9. talladega

    talladega I'm Squidward

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    If it had enough precision you probably could sell them.
     
  10. LooseNeutral

    LooseNeutral What's a Dremel?

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    Yea, What he said!:lol: Really! Oh and a big yes to some carbon!:hip:
     
  11. Shadow703793

    Shadow703793 What's a Dremel?

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    What I meant was probably would have been cheaper to use "normal" rectangular Aluminum bars instead of the 80/20. Anyways, those 80/20 brackets are VERY expensive so you may have been able to reduce costs by welding.
     
  12. talladega

    talladega I'm Squidward

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    welding the frame would not be a good idea because the heat would cause warping.
     
  13. lenne0815

    lenne0815 What has been seen cannot be unseen

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    Thats exactly what i thought talla, i really like the bosch Profiles, another great plus is that they stay adjustable, even when they are assembled !

    I havent seen a single "welded" cnc, the parts are either cast iron or profiles, i think welding precision parts requires a lot of gear to avoid warping.

    50 Brackets with two screws and nuts each are 70 Euros, so theyre not that expensive.
     
  14. Shadow703793

    Shadow703793 What's a Dremel?

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    Ahh.... that makes sense. I didn't think of that.

    Here in the US, the 90 degree corner brackets (10 series) are ~$3 each,so for 50 brackets only with out , it's 150 or so. See: http://www.amazon.com/80-20-2-HOLE-..._1?ie=UTF8&s=industrial&qid=1277218016&sr=1-1
    The inside corner gussets you've used are ~$4 here: http://www.amazon.com/80-20-2-HOLE-INSIDE-CORNER/dp/B001IA2M0M/ref=pd_sim_indust_2
    So for a set of 50, that's $200.

    The Amazon prices are more or less the same as ordering from 80-20 directly.
     
  15. Javerh

    Javerh Topiary Golem

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    Some precision machines are indeed welded. They need to be annealed after welding to stop the warping. Usually the same machine parts are normalized before welding to make them behave more predictably and anneal better. The same applies to cast iron structures and machining.

    A heat treatment wouldn't hurt your 80/20's either. All metal parts twist and bend after assembly. I'd suggest you re-tighten every nut and bolt after the cnc has been used for some time. Also be sure to check everything keeps in alignment.
     
  16. Teyber

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    wow great machine you have got there (v2). keep up the updates. quite a cost those linear rails + screws must have been on the bigger machine!
     
  17. lenne0815

    lenne0815 What has been seen cannot be unseen

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    Thanks ! yeah, they were quite expensive :( but i dont think theres anything cheaper that can match the precision ;)

    Today i received the last ballscrew but the guy forgot the last aluminium plate i need to assemble the z axis so i spend the day cleaning up and wiring more power lines in the shop ;)

    for the last time, they are not 80/20s, the profiles are manufactured in germany by a german company called Bosch ( Propably u guys now them better for shitty power tools ;) ) if u have a look at the cut section ull see that theyre different from 80/20s :D

    ill retighten everything for sure, im already expecting some parts to come loose after a while, but with self locking nuts and lock tite ill try to keep everything in check :D
     
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  18. Shadow703793

    Shadow703793 What's a Dremel?

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    Ahh! It's Bosch! That explains the cost difference LOL!
     
  19. lenne0815

    lenne0815 What has been seen cannot be unseen

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    some progress, sleeved / mounted some of the steppers !

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    Second one

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    the three ive done yesterday together

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    Closeups

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    and in place on the machine !

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    thats it for today :)
     
  20. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    Awesome build, I can hardly cope with all the beautifully assembled, sturdy aluminum parts.
     

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