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Storage Motherboard for Freenas

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Dmc, 9 Feb 2011.

  1. Dmc

    Dmc Minimodder

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    I've got a fair bit of old hardware hanging around so decided to use it following this little project http://geekyprojects.com/nas/build-your-own-nas-using-freenas/

    Just was not sure which motherboard to use, I have some random P4 2.6 mobo or
    Asus A7M222D Dual 1.9 AMD MP 2G ECC memory
    Asus PC-DL Dual 2.4 Xeon 2G ddr1 memory ( a bit too power hungry me thinks )
    Asus P5K Premium C2D 6400 4g ddr2 memory

    Which mobo should I use remember this nas box will be running 24/7 :D
     
  2. Guest-16

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    Anything low power, you don't even need dual CPU. The most important parts are compatibility with your Ethernet and SATA controllers. Any standard hardware will be fine with BSD.

    FreeNAS 8 beta is much better than previous, but it's also been overly simplified imo. I was waiting until they launched the final retail to do a feature myself :)

    How many HDD are you needing?

    To be honest, sell it all and buy an Atom or AMD E350 motherboard. If I can find my FreeNAS USB key ill test this Gigabyte E350N-USB3 if you like.
     
  3. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    I personally used an Atom 330+ION board from Asus (AT3IONT-I, the non-Deluxe variant) for two simple reasons - it had 4 onboard SATA connectors + it had a full PCI-E card slot (not a crippled one looking like a x16, but a full x16 PCI-E slot), which means i added a PCI-E SAS controller + 2 mSAS->4xSATA cables => maximum of 12 drives connected to one small Atom board.

    True, i used Arch Linux instead of FreNAS, so i can't comment about compatibility with FreeNAS.
     
  4. Guest-16

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    Arch Linux doesn't look like a bespoke NAS solution though.. :worried:
     
  5. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    Of course i needed more than FreeNAS could provide, and except the fancy web UI, i could get pretty much everything with the Linux too.

    But i didn't mean to talk about Arch Linux here, i meant it as a alternative, exactly because it has 4 SATA ports on the board and full PCI-E x16 slot usable for anything, not just graphics card (integrated graphics don't disable itself just because you have a card in the slot). I noted this for one reason - look at E350 boards :
    1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x4

    Considering better RAID or HBA cards are using PCI-E x8, it can be a serious limitation.

    PS: Just for information, i used this SAS card :
    http://www.intel.com/products/server/raid-controllers/SASUC8I/SASUC8I-overview.htm
     
  6. Dmc

    Dmc Minimodder

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  7. Guest-16

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    My point was, weigh up how much you can sell that kit for, because running it 24/7 vs a new, very low power system could be a better choice in the long term. Not to mention the noise reduction and modern advantages like ACHI for HDDs.
     
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    Just tested FreeNAS and no, the E-350 APU is not compatible. It just sits there and twiddles it thumbs right after if finds the boot loader.
     
  9. Dmc

    Dmc Minimodder

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    Taking your advice onboard have found a nice low powered mobo with laptop style psu just need a cooler for a mobile 478/479 cpu.
    Thanks for tying FreeNas on the E-350 think FreeNas works better with older hardware though I might be wrong
     
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    Yea it does. Atom hardware is great as long as you only need two SATA.
     
  11. Repo

    Repo What's a Dremel?

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    Is this a hardware performance limitation, as there are plenty of Atom boards with 4 SATAII ports, there are even a few with 6 SATAII ports?
     
  12. Fingers66

    Fingers66 Kiwi in London

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    Exactly...

    Asus AT3IONT-I: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=47#AT3IONT-I
    Asus AT3IONT-I Deluxe: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=47#AT3IONT-I-DELUXE
    Gigabyte GA-D525TUD: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=47#ga-d525tud
    Jetway JNC96-525: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=47#jnc96-525
    Zotac ION-ITX-G: http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=47#ION-ITX-G
     
  13. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    It is a chipset limitation.
    NM10 = High-speed storage interface supports faster transfer rate for improved data access with up to 2 SATA ports.
    945GSE - ICH7-M = 2 SATA ports.

    The ones with more SATA ports are either ION boards or have extra JMicron controller (the Gigabyte and Jetway boards).
     
  14. Guest-16

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    They still sell first gen ION stuff? Cool, get one of those. I was referring to the standard Intel only hardware. I'm not sure if the extra chipsets added to the ones like the Gigabyte board are supported: I haven't tested them and FreeBSD is notoriously picky. It doesn't like the Silicon Image SIL3114 card I have :(

    Faugusztin - last time I tested it NM10 was actually slower than the older ICH7-M at SATA :eeek:
     
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    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    @Bindibadgi: i just copy-pasted the stuff from Intel page ;).
     
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    What, a companies telling fibs? :eeek: Unless they've improved the drivers since it launched the NM10...?
     
  17. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    Oh, no, sorry I wasn't doubting you at all. I was just faking surprise 'that marketing shields the truth' ;) :D
     
  19. Dmc

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    Right I have made a right royal cockup, I have this motherboard coming 'AOpen i965GMt-LA Core 2 Duo Mobile Mini-ITX' which is powered by a laptop style psu so can someone tell me how to power the 6 x 1.5TB hard drives :wallbash:
     
  20. RichCreedy

    RichCreedy Hey What Who

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    *******ise an atx power supply?
     

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